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WotC acknowledges 4th Edition Not for Everyone?
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<blockquote data-quote="justanobody" data-source="post: 4543497" data-attributes="member: 70778"><p>My point is that gaming is more than just D&D. There is already an established industry usage of the word terrain. New gamers will not know the difference, and possibly get into arguments when they find out it means something else to a different game. I have already seen them with the keywords in 4th edition.</p><p></p><p>So don't mislabel things to confuse people just to sell something or purposefully mislabel it. They are tiles, please just call them that. Then when you discuss terrain you will be discussing the same thing with people.</p><p></p><p>If you just walk into a room of gamers and start talking about D&D and how you play it and don't define which edition you will run into a mes of confusion also.</p><p></p><p>Bob: I love how my fighter can use his "get over here" power and pull his opponent to him. (talking about 4th obviously)</p><p>Tom: (knows nothing of 4th and its powers) Aren't you talking about Mortal Kombat and the character Scorpion, not D&D?</p><p></p><p>Simple miscommunications are caused by bad naming conventions and lead to bigger problems, or by calling something the wrong thing.</p><p></p><p>Some poor new player walks into a hobby store wanting to buy the latest set of tiles as asks the clerk where the terrain is, and lead to a bunch of trees and buildings and foliage. Poor guy leaves without buying anything because he went looking for the wrong thing and the item he wanted was on the other side of the shelf.</p><p></p><p>That is why things have names to distinguish one thing from another....</p><p></p><p>So it doesn't matter that we know the difference, but the forums are likely to attract new users, and even those using the term here may carry it back to somewhere where someone else doesn't know the difference.</p><p></p><p>When they make D&D Mage Knight Dungeons Delve Minis, then those are more closely terrain, like the proposed treasure chests from the latest podcast, but they will still not be found in the average terrain section of a hobby store.</p><p></p><p>There is enough confusing terms in 4th for new players, lets keep the universal type accessories at least named properly so people can buy the right thing.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="justanobody, post: 4543497, member: 70778"] My point is that gaming is more than just D&D. There is already an established industry usage of the word terrain. New gamers will not know the difference, and possibly get into arguments when they find out it means something else to a different game. I have already seen them with the keywords in 4th edition. So don't mislabel things to confuse people just to sell something or purposefully mislabel it. They are tiles, please just call them that. Then when you discuss terrain you will be discussing the same thing with people. If you just walk into a room of gamers and start talking about D&D and how you play it and don't define which edition you will run into a mes of confusion also. Bob: I love how my fighter can use his "get over here" power and pull his opponent to him. (talking about 4th obviously) Tom: (knows nothing of 4th and its powers) Aren't you talking about Mortal Kombat and the character Scorpion, not D&D? Simple miscommunications are caused by bad naming conventions and lead to bigger problems, or by calling something the wrong thing. Some poor new player walks into a hobby store wanting to buy the latest set of tiles as asks the clerk where the terrain is, and lead to a bunch of trees and buildings and foliage. Poor guy leaves without buying anything because he went looking for the wrong thing and the item he wanted was on the other side of the shelf. That is why things have names to distinguish one thing from another.... So it doesn't matter that we know the difference, but the forums are likely to attract new users, and even those using the term here may carry it back to somewhere where someone else doesn't know the difference. When they make D&D Mage Knight Dungeons Delve Minis, then those are more closely terrain, like the proposed treasure chests from the latest podcast, but they will still not be found in the average terrain section of a hobby store. There is enough confusing terms in 4th for new players, lets keep the universal type accessories at least named properly so people can buy the right thing. :( [/QUOTE]
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