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<blockquote data-quote="justanobody" data-source="post: 4544731" data-attributes="member: 70778"><p>Because a kobold mini that would require that size footprint would be stupidly out of scale with what kobolds are.</p><p></p><p>The base was used as a frame of reference for scale.</p><p></p><p>I didn't call anyone else's opinon stupid, just that they don't matter if they don't care about the scale.</p><p></p><p>If you take a poll about if people want things to scale and get these results:</p><p>Yes: 46%</p><p>No: 12%</p><p>Don't care: 42%</p><p></p><p>Which do you think matters most? Do you throw the undecided in with the "No" vote and just claim it isn't important enough?</p><p></p><p>What if that causes you to lose that 46% as customers?</p><p></p><p>If you throw out the "don't care" vote because they will probably buy it either way, and go with the "Yes" vote, you have a larger chance of keeping the greater range of customers.</p><p></p><p>So they are not stupid for not caring, but their undecided vote means little in the overall scheme of things because they don't care so they have no influence until a point comes up that they do care about.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nobody is saying that you must use tokens, but if you don't care about scale and such when even open your mouth about it?</p><p></p><p>Check your facts. Treeborn, I think, was the one who is the HO gague railroader.</p><p></p><p>I use closer to O gauge when I must buy terrain they is already made, otherwise I make my own terrain. I am not as good as the guy who made a 3D Drow Ooutpost by far, but I get by; and would love to be able to build my dungeons with Master Maze pieces rather than flat maps.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No the quality of the minis had absolutely nothing to do with its death. Did you listen to the latest podcast?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Did you listen to the latest podcast?</p><p></p><p>Do you know what CAD-CAM is? How long it has been in use and why? Even fast-track prototyping uses it along side 3D printers, rather than taking the time to actually sculpt out the mini/model by hand.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I recall something about 4th edition where one of the designers said a room should be 8 squares wide.</p><p></p><p>Talk about comically huge having all rooms 1600' sq. Hell that is the same size as my floorplan! And it isn't just a single room.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah because in your little fantasy world, there aren't people who actually make a living off terrain and miniature making. I guess Racham, FASA, Ral Partha, Games Workshop, Lionel, Reaper, Hasslefree, and the list goes on for sevarl pages....none of them exist.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I wish your state funded educators were at least educated themselves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="justanobody, post: 4544731, member: 70778"] Because a kobold mini that would require that size footprint would be stupidly out of scale with what kobolds are. The base was used as a frame of reference for scale. I didn't call anyone else's opinon stupid, just that they don't matter if they don't care about the scale. If you take a poll about if people want things to scale and get these results: Yes: 46% No: 12% Don't care: 42% Which do you think matters most? Do you throw the undecided in with the "No" vote and just claim it isn't important enough? What if that causes you to lose that 46% as customers? If you throw out the "don't care" vote because they will probably buy it either way, and go with the "Yes" vote, you have a larger chance of keeping the greater range of customers. So they are not stupid for not caring, but their undecided vote means little in the overall scheme of things because they don't care so they have no influence until a point comes up that they do care about. Nobody is saying that you must use tokens, but if you don't care about scale and such when even open your mouth about it? Check your facts. Treeborn, I think, was the one who is the HO gague railroader. I use closer to O gauge when I must buy terrain they is already made, otherwise I make my own terrain. I am not as good as the guy who made a 3D Drow Ooutpost by far, but I get by; and would love to be able to build my dungeons with Master Maze pieces rather than flat maps. No the quality of the minis had absolutely nothing to do with its death. Did you listen to the latest podcast? Did you listen to the latest podcast? Do you know what CAD-CAM is? How long it has been in use and why? Even fast-track prototyping uses it along side 3D printers, rather than taking the time to actually sculpt out the mini/model by hand. I recall something about 4th edition where one of the designers said a room should be 8 squares wide. Talk about comically huge having all rooms 1600' sq. Hell that is the same size as my floorplan! And it isn't just a single room. Yeah because in your little fantasy world, there aren't people who actually make a living off terrain and miniature making. I guess Racham, FASA, Ral Partha, Games Workshop, Lionel, Reaper, Hasslefree, and the list goes on for sevarl pages....none of them exist. I wish your state funded educators were at least educated themselves. [/QUOTE]
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