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<blockquote data-quote="maddman75" data-source="post: 1303044" data-attributes="member: 2673">I'm a 'don't like where they are headed' kind of guy.The revision is part of it, for reasons I went into rather extensively in that thread.&nbsp; Basically I'm not opposed to a revision, but I personally feel that the way they went about this revision was bad.&nbsp; For me anyway.As far as their books they've been failing to impress me for quite some time.&nbsp; The ELH is pretty much 180 degrees from what I'd want in epic rules, savage species I had no interest in as I don't allow monsterous PCs.&nbsp; Complete Warrior almost sounds good, as I like getting new base classes.&nbsp; But I already own a lot of the material from here, and 'updated to 3.5' has no value to me.&nbsp; I didn't like the approach the BoED took, consisting of a lot of &quot;power-ups&quot; for good characters.I do like some of their stuff.&nbsp; The Manual of the Planes and Fiend Folio are great.&nbsp; I love the BoVD - this is the approach I prefer.&nbsp; It doesn't power-up the villians, but gives them flavor and makes them feel &quot;more evil&quot;.&nbsp; And I'm a big fan of the minis line.&nbsp; I don't use minis all the time and I have no interest in the board game, but dirt cheap prepainted minis are hard to beat.But of course my favorite thing they did was to release the d20 license.&nbsp; Since that was done if they go in a direction I don't prefer, that's okay.&nbsp; There's a ton of other companies out there that do things differently than WotC.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="maddman75, post: 1303044, member: 2673"] I'm a 'don't like where they are headed' kind of guy. The revision is part of it, for reasons I went into rather extensively in that thread. Basically I'm not opposed to a revision, but I personally feel that the way they went about this revision was bad. For me anyway. As far as their books they've been failing to impress me for quite some time. The ELH is pretty much 180 degrees from what I'd want in epic rules, savage species I had no interest in as I don't allow monsterous PCs. Complete Warrior almost sounds good, as I like getting new base classes. But I already own a lot of the material from here, and 'updated to 3.5' has no value to me. I didn't like the approach the BoED took, consisting of a lot of "power-ups" for good characters. I do like some of their stuff. The Manual of the Planes and Fiend Folio are great. I love the BoVD - this is the approach I prefer. It doesn't power-up the villians, but gives them flavor and makes them feel "more evil". And I'm a big fan of the minis line. I don't use minis all the time and I have no interest in the board game, but dirt cheap prepainted minis are hard to beat. But of course my favorite thing they did was to release the d20 license. Since that was done if they go in a direction I don't prefer, that's okay. There's a ton of other companies out there that do things differently than WotC. [/QUOTE]

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