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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Malmuria" data-source="post: 8866510" data-attributes="member: 7030755">To give an example of the kind of #opendnd discourse I'm talking about, I'll screenshot rather than link:[ATTACH=full]270264[/ATTACH]This account goes on to talk about how they love the game and are just trying to grow it for the sake of the "community" etc etc.  What are they selling that they can't sell with the new OGL?  They are selling NFTs.  There have been whole threads about this and we don't need to get into it, but IMO this is grift, not creativity.  Which is bad enough, but the fact they using the language of "openness" and "community" makes it really hollow sounding, to me.In terms of 5e vs indie game products in general, certainly there's a lot of variance in quality, and it's all a matter of taste.  But I'll take the top 20 indie/osr games vs the top 20 5e products any day (in terms of game design, art production, layout and usability, writing, or just sheer creativity).edit: now Alexander Macris, the fascist game designer (sorry, "far right libertarian"), is standing up against wotc on behalf of the "community."  What a time to be alive.</blockquote>