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<blockquote data-quote="Golroc" data-source="post: 9087589" data-attributes="member: 7042497">It really is AI - the mainstream definition of AI includes neural networks. These are not merely algorithms. Fighting for the rights and livelihoods of artists is commendable and good. But that fight is not well-served by refusing to acknowledge the technological progress within machine learning and AI. These systems will only get more advanced and more capable. Which makes the discussion about legal rights, ethics, etc. very poignant indeed. But these are not scripted systems or algorithms in the traditional sense of that word. They're also nothing like cryptocurrency - the hype has similarities, but the technology does not. AI has already taken over translations to a very large extent. I have decades of experience working with computer science and software development, including AI (not related to art, but I have read the papers and know how these systems work) - this isn't something I'm making up. Professional artists may not be able to avoid AI tools in the long run - similar to most other lines of work. The pace of the adoption and nature of the assistance provided by the tools is not entirely given yet. We're pretty far from AI which can directly compete with professional artists - but we're not far from artists using AI tools having a very large comparative advantage when it comes to productivity. I fear it is counterproductive to downplay the impact of AI and to pretend it will only find expression as automated plagiarism.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Golroc, post: 9087589, member: 7042497"] It really is AI - the mainstream definition of AI includes neural networks. These are not merely algorithms. Fighting for the rights and livelihoods of artists is commendable and good. But that fight is not well-served by refusing to acknowledge the technological progress within machine learning and AI. These systems will only get more advanced and more capable. Which makes the discussion about legal rights, ethics, etc. very poignant indeed. But these are not scripted systems or algorithms in the traditional sense of that word. They're also nothing like cryptocurrency - the hype has similarities, but the technology does not. AI has already taken over translations to a very large extent. I have decades of experience working with computer science and software development, including AI (not related to art, but I have read the papers and know how these systems work) - this isn't something I'm making up. Professional artists may not be able to avoid AI tools in the long run - similar to most other lines of work. The pace of the adoption and nature of the assistance provided by the tools is not entirely given yet. We're pretty far from AI which can directly compete with professional artists - but we're not far from artists using AI tools having a very large comparative advantage when it comes to productivity. I fear it is counterproductive to downplay the impact of AI and to pretend it will only find expression as automated plagiarism. [/QUOTE]

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