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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jfdlsjfd" data-source="post: 9090441" data-attributes="member: 42856">Yes, but you're conflagrating several, very distinct steps here, each can have ethical and legal hurdles to be cleared. Note that I don't intent to convince you on ethical grounds as I think your stance is already decided, and you'd also be against generative AI like Firefly, whose author have given their rights to Adobe for the training of the AI, because the outcome (potentially reduced income for artists) would be the same. Or if there was a magic item called the Canvas of Creating, that allow anyone to just ask for a picture using a short description (or even better, by reading your brainwaves), and get a magnificent, breathtaking work of art, in return, for free, available on the Internet. I think you're making your decision based on the outcome of IA, not IA by itself, but I'd be delighted to be proven wrong.STEP ONE : collating a database of potential training images URLsSTEP TWO : having the training program collect the images and use them in generating the model.STEP THREE : distributing the modelSTEP FOUR : using the model to guide denoiser programs (generator) toward an image that would satisfy the prompt entered by a human.You asked why LAION-5B had copyrighted works, it is a question related to step one. Your question is now a question about "why are people creating commercial content after using LAION-5B, whose licence prohibit commercial use?" . It's more about step two and a different thing.Let's see.First, from reading the LAION-5B's website, they say: "The motivation behind dataset creation is to democratize research and experimentation around large-scale multi-modal model training and handling of uncurated, large-scale datasets crawled from publically available internet. Our recommendation is therefore to use the dataset for research purposes." It seems to be only written a recommandation that it would be used for research use, but not a literal licensing restriction against for-profit use. They'd prefer their database to be used for that, much like some nuclear researchers might have preferred to have their work used for civilian and peaceful use rather than killing people. But it doesn't seem to be mandatory as a licensing term.Second, Stable Diffusion by Stability AI has made their models free and open-source, so they are respecting the "non profit" use even if it is read as an actual licensing term. I am not sure whether Adobe used LAION-5B, but they don't claim to and have their own databases to generate models with.</blockquote>

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