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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 8919422" data-attributes="member: 85555"><p>I guess my question is why then, if there is no point in trying again, can't they state that the OGL 1A is irrevocable? That was the original point of contention. I need to review the whole SRD 5.1-CC to fully absorb what they are saying and what possible angles could be happening here. If they really mean what they say here, why can't they just also throw in a statement to the effect that the original OGL 1A is irrevocable and cannot be deauthorized?</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>When I say slimy, I am basing it off the behavior WOTC and Hasbro has exhibited over the past month, which I think was harmful, slimy and dishonest. Maybe they have done a full about face because of the backlash and this is sincere, but they have given me every reason to believe they are going to have some term in there, some thing that is being missed, that they can later point to reverse the concession they appear to be making. Again, up until one month ago, the idea that the OGL 1A could be deauthorized was utterly inconceivable. But they demonstrated a willingness to employ devious legal analysis of the terms so they could end it. </p><p></p><p>Cooporations are entities that have cultures. Some are more destructive than others. Some more deceptive. I think saying we can't make any kind of moral evaluation of a company or that we can't attribute negative personality traits to a company, simply because they are an organism made up of many many people, just doesn't make sense. It isn't like they are an unfeeling force of nature. They are made up of human beings, their decisions are made by human beings. </p><p></p><p>We don't know who made these decisions. It could have been the same people once they realized how bad of a miscalculation they made. And again I think until we have total clarity on all the implications we won't know for sure if this was a genuine effort to backtrack or an effort to plant something in the SRD 5.1-CC that can be seized upon the same way 'authorize' was seized upon in the original OGL. Hopefully my skepticism of them isn't warranted, but they haven't done much to instill me with optimism or trust.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 8919422, member: 85555"] I guess my question is why then, if there is no point in trying again, can't they state that the OGL 1A is irrevocable? That was the original point of contention. I need to review the whole SRD 5.1-CC to fully absorb what they are saying and what possible angles could be happening here. If they really mean what they say here, why can't they just also throw in a statement to the effect that the original OGL 1A is irrevocable and cannot be deauthorized? When I say slimy, I am basing it off the behavior WOTC and Hasbro has exhibited over the past month, which I think was harmful, slimy and dishonest. Maybe they have done a full about face because of the backlash and this is sincere, but they have given me every reason to believe they are going to have some term in there, some thing that is being missed, that they can later point to reverse the concession they appear to be making. Again, up until one month ago, the idea that the OGL 1A could be deauthorized was utterly inconceivable. But they demonstrated a willingness to employ devious legal analysis of the terms so they could end it. Cooporations are entities that have cultures. Some are more destructive than others. Some more deceptive. I think saying we can't make any kind of moral evaluation of a company or that we can't attribute negative personality traits to a company, simply because they are an organism made up of many many people, just doesn't make sense. It isn't like they are an unfeeling force of nature. They are made up of human beings, their decisions are made by human beings. We don't know who made these decisions. It could have been the same people once they realized how bad of a miscalculation they made. And again I think until we have total clarity on all the implications we won't know for sure if this was a genuine effort to backtrack or an effort to plant something in the SRD 5.1-CC that can be seized upon the same way 'authorize' was seized upon in the original OGL. Hopefully my skepticism of them isn't warranted, but they haven't done much to instill me with optimism or trust. [/QUOTE]
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