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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 7699988" data-attributes="member: 18182"><p>Wha? When taking a job for pay, the job being for "self-support" has nothing to do with anything. You work, you get paid. I work as a teacher both to support myself and because I enjoy and am passionate for teaching. If I took a part-time job at my local game store to earn some extra scratch, and because I love and am passionate for the gaming scene, should I not get paid for that?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If I love Magic (which I do), and I love it so much I want to be involved in the game more than just as a player, I might just volunteer to become a tournament judge based solely on my passion for the game, not expected to get paid but appreciated the unique cards I get as a thank-you. But, after working as a tournament judge and realizing, "Hey! This is tougher than my day-job! I should totally be getting paid for this!" It is not hypocritical or unethical for me to challenge WotC's policies on volunteer judges. I still love the game, I still want to be involved as a judge, but I want WotC to treat me and, more importantly, my fellow judges fairly. If WotC disagrees, then taking the issue to court is a logical next step.</p><p></p><p>My involvement and perception of my volunteerism began as "non-monetary" and shifted to feeling my contributions should be "monetary".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wha? This makes no sense to me. "Personal responsibility"? How is feeling that your passion for a hobby was taken advantage of by WotC, and they trying to change that situation, show a lack of personal responsibility? These tournament judges suing WotC are not doing anything hypocritical, unethical, or irresponsible. That's just crazy talk!</p><p></p><p>The only possible way you could view the situation as showing a lack of personal responsibility is that the judges volunteered KNOWING that they were volunteering for positions that should clearly be performed by paid employees with the express purpose of later suing WotC. Which, if you believe that, I've got a nice tinfoil hat you can wear.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 7699988, member: 18182"] Wha? When taking a job for pay, the job being for "self-support" has nothing to do with anything. You work, you get paid. I work as a teacher both to support myself and because I enjoy and am passionate for teaching. If I took a part-time job at my local game store to earn some extra scratch, and because I love and am passionate for the gaming scene, should I not get paid for that? If I love Magic (which I do), and I love it so much I want to be involved in the game more than just as a player, I might just volunteer to become a tournament judge based solely on my passion for the game, not expected to get paid but appreciated the unique cards I get as a thank-you. But, after working as a tournament judge and realizing, "Hey! This is tougher than my day-job! I should totally be getting paid for this!" It is not hypocritical or unethical for me to challenge WotC's policies on volunteer judges. I still love the game, I still want to be involved as a judge, but I want WotC to treat me and, more importantly, my fellow judges fairly. If WotC disagrees, then taking the issue to court is a logical next step. My involvement and perception of my volunteerism began as "non-monetary" and shifted to feeling my contributions should be "monetary". Wha? This makes no sense to me. "Personal responsibility"? How is feeling that your passion for a hobby was taken advantage of by WotC, and they trying to change that situation, show a lack of personal responsibility? These tournament judges suing WotC are not doing anything hypocritical, unethical, or irresponsible. That's just crazy talk! The only possible way you could view the situation as showing a lack of personal responsibility is that the judges volunteered KNOWING that they were volunteering for positions that should clearly be performed by paid employees with the express purpose of later suing WotC. Which, if you believe that, I've got a nice tinfoil hat you can wear. [/QUOTE]
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