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<blockquote data-quote="LordEntrails" data-source="post: 7700052" data-attributes="member: 6804070"><p>Not sure your first "harmful" is the right word, but if I get what you are saying;</p><p>Well, how many judges are there? 10,000? 1000? And 5 are claiming harm. Even though they are claiming it on behalf of all of them. So, do I believe 1000 people who say they were not being harmed? Or do I believe the 5? </p><p></p><p>Oh sure, I know, the 1000 don't know better... They don't know they were harmed... Or maybe they are just as smart and aware as us and can make that determination on their own. Note, only one other self-identified judge has commented in this thread, and he did not seem to take sides.</p><p></p><p>But, I wasn't talking harm. I was talking ethics/morals. And, given my points before that these "jobs" were not engaged in for support, then I see "harm" as very hard to sustain. It didn't keep food off their table. It didn't keep them from paying their rent. Maybe it kept them from making money that they could have made doing something else, but it also stroked their egos, so they got something out of it that many jobs never give.</p><p></p><p>Then, even if you were to convince me that they were harmed. Then you have to convince me that WotC was more responsible for their harm than they were. And claiming they didn't know better and that WotC should have may be a legal defense (I doubt it, but I don't care either), it will never be a moral one for my ethos.</p><p></p><p>But, why is it more ethical to walk away than sue? Because by suing they are causing harm to many, and not just WotC. Is it ethical to harm others just because you have been harmed?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It doesn't matter what the parents expect. It is their moral and legal obligation to know. No matter how unfair that is (and I'm a parent of two teenagers, so I know), it is still their obligation to know enough to make that decision. And if they don't know enough, and they allow it to happen, they are still responsible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LordEntrails, post: 7700052, member: 6804070"] Not sure your first "harmful" is the right word, but if I get what you are saying; Well, how many judges are there? 10,000? 1000? And 5 are claiming harm. Even though they are claiming it on behalf of all of them. So, do I believe 1000 people who say they were not being harmed? Or do I believe the 5? Oh sure, I know, the 1000 don't know better... They don't know they were harmed... Or maybe they are just as smart and aware as us and can make that determination on their own. Note, only one other self-identified judge has commented in this thread, and he did not seem to take sides. But, I wasn't talking harm. I was talking ethics/morals. And, given my points before that these "jobs" were not engaged in for support, then I see "harm" as very hard to sustain. It didn't keep food off their table. It didn't keep them from paying their rent. Maybe it kept them from making money that they could have made doing something else, but it also stroked their egos, so they got something out of it that many jobs never give. Then, even if you were to convince me that they were harmed. Then you have to convince me that WotC was more responsible for their harm than they were. And claiming they didn't know better and that WotC should have may be a legal defense (I doubt it, but I don't care either), it will never be a moral one for my ethos. But, why is it more ethical to walk away than sue? Because by suing they are causing harm to many, and not just WotC. Is it ethical to harm others just because you have been harmed? It doesn't matter what the parents expect. It is their moral and legal obligation to know. No matter how unfair that is (and I'm a parent of two teenagers, so I know), it is still their obligation to know enough to make that decision. And if they don't know enough, and they allow it to happen, they are still responsible. [/QUOTE]
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