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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KDLadage" data-source="post: 505287" data-attributes="member: 88">Agreed on both accounts.Or drop it. Make it a Prestige Class (which is what the darned thing should be anyway!)Take a look at teh Crusader class from Volume IV of Umbragia. Let me know what you think. Then, once I get Volume VI out you will see how I feel that a ranger should be handled...Again, look over the Volume IV stuff we are working on right now. Clerics are getting a major overhaul in that book. If what you say above is what you are looking for, I think ou will be pleasantly surprised to see what we have done.These are a strange class that I flip-flop on what to do with...Agreed.Good ideas... where were you when I was putting Volume III together? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Interesting... gets me thinking...Again, you might want to look over at the Volume IV discussions in the UMBRAGIA boards... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I have seen very few Prestige Classes that actually fit the role defined for them. I could care less what combo the PrC is designed for -- make it fit the role a PrC is supposed to fill, and I will listen.Using a more 'damage reduction' concept could help here. Even if it were combined with the 'better AC' concepts as well.Preach on, Brother!{takes notes}Have you read over the Volume III material? We will be revisiting that portion of teh UMBRAGIA setting in the near future, and would love to have your comments and ideas when we do.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Good points.I have not yet got my copy, but I have been reading teh Modern SRD. I tend to agree here.Yes, I see your point here.Must re-read the AoO rules, I think you are reading at least one part of this incorrect... (or perhaps I am). Can an attack that is generated as an AoO itself generate an AoO against the attacking character?All yes. Plus, read my review of the MM -- I have a lot of issues with this book.Same here.</blockquote>

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