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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 3031172" data-attributes="member: 7635">Hey everyone.answering and commenting on some things that have come up in the discussion.1.) I wasn't said knight. I was said bard. I knew little of the knights mechanics during the time (my copy of PH2 was on loan to the knights player). 2.) It wasn't the length, it was the perception (the DMs) the DM was locked into a certain type of fight that 1 round into the combat (it really didn't help the knight was 2nd in the round, vrock was second to last) the vrock couldn't really do more than 1 mirror image and then try to full attack the knight (and use spores on the rogue). He felt his better tactics/targets were nullified. Because of this (and the rule-mess up) the fight didn't feel like a &quot;challenge&quot; merely a speed bump we overcame rather easily. I think he was upset there was really no potential for us to die in that fight and all we were doing was expending resource (which we would get back soon) were going to win unless we did something REALLY stupid. 3.) The DM has a dim view on MMORPGs and dislikes the &quot;camping&quot; mindset of buff, pull, kill, rest, repeat. When his game took on (to him) that same fomula; I think he freaked. In his opinion (and I spoke again on this not too long ago) &quot;D&amp;D doesn't need an agro system&quot; and thus his banning of the knight and its ability to &quot;control the battlefield&quot; (read, strip him of options and turn the monster into a mindless full attack).4.) The mystic had reach spell because she's supposed to be non-combat. She had low ranks in concentration (maybe none?) but could heal from a distance. He's actually went back and allowed it, but has made grumbles at it. 5.) He revoiced his concern about the orb spells when the wizard nearly took out a raksasha by his dangself. I think orb of force is on the chopping block next.&nbsp; 6.) The 5 rounds came from the knights full attack removing the mirror images and not having DR appropriate weapons. If the knight had the proper DR-beating weapon? 2-3 rounds. I spoke with him again not too long ago. He's pretty adamant about banning the knight. However, knowing now it was a fluke fight (and we screwed it up royally) I feel better knowing it was NOT the class. Still, DOES D&amp;D need an &quot;agro controller&quot; in the mechanics?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 3031172, member: 7635"] Hey everyone. answering and commenting on some things that have come up in the discussion. 1.) I wasn't said knight. I was said bard. I knew little of the knights mechanics during the time (my copy of PH2 was on loan to the knights player). 2.) It wasn't the length, it was the perception (the DMs) the DM was locked into a certain type of fight that 1 round into the combat (it really didn't help the knight was 2nd in the round, vrock was second to last) the vrock couldn't really do more than 1 mirror image and then try to full attack the knight (and use spores on the rogue). He felt his better tactics/targets were nullified. Because of this (and the rule-mess up) the fight didn't feel like a "challenge" merely a speed bump we overcame rather easily. I think he was upset there was really no potential for us to die in that fight and all we were doing was expending resource (which we would get back soon) were going to win unless we did something REALLY stupid. 3.) The DM has a dim view on MMORPGs and dislikes the "camping" mindset of buff, pull, kill, rest, repeat. When his game took on (to him) that same fomula; I think he freaked. In his opinion (and I spoke again on this not too long ago) "D&D doesn't need an agro system" and thus his banning of the knight and its ability to "control the battlefield" (read, strip him of options and turn the monster into a mindless full attack). 4.) The mystic had reach spell because she's supposed to be non-combat. She had low ranks in concentration (maybe none?) but could heal from a distance. He's actually went back and allowed it, but has made grumbles at it. 5.) He revoiced his concern about the orb spells when the wizard nearly took out a raksasha by his dangself. I think orb of force is on the chopping block next. 6.) The 5 rounds came from the knights full attack removing the mirror images and not having DR appropriate weapons. If the knight had the proper DR-beating weapon? 2-3 rounds. I spoke with him again not too long ago. He's pretty adamant about banning the knight. However, knowing now it was a fluke fight (and we screwed it up royally) I feel better knowing it was NOT the class. Still, DOES D&D need an "agro controller" in the mechanics? [/QUOTE]

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