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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wedgeski" data-source="post: 5037838" data-attributes="member: 16212">Many of these criticisms of 4E are, in my opinion, unfair. Having said that the headline adventure arc that started with the Keep on the Shadowfell is pretty poor, at least through the Heroic tier where I've DM'd it; on the flip side, many of the Dungeon adventures have been absolutely superb.I have found the monster manuals, and associated tomes like the Manual of the Planes, to be excellent, some of the best examples of their kind given how I like to build campaigns.To my mind WotC don't need to "learn" from the likes of Paizo, they have simply chosen to do things differently. Paizo know their market, they know the kind of person that is buying their product, and they're aiming at them with complete precision. Similarly, WotC know how to sell their game, and it seems to be doing very well for them. It's a mistake to think that the folks at either company are simply better at what they do than their equivalents at the other... they're all immensely talented, and operating under the instructions given to them by the guys shouldering the risk.</blockquote>