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<blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 5430110" data-attributes="member: 58416">I was mistaken about the dragon I think. It had been a while since I had a close look at Descent. The style of the pieces seems somewhat similar, but they are not the same.&nbsp;I apologize ahead of time for the length of the links...&nbsp;&nbsp;Here's a link which will show one of the Descent dragons: <a href="http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.majhost.com/gallery/MK-Ultra71/BGG/Alan/descent06.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/440803/descent-first-game-experience&amp;usg=__8JhuhvbH2NDDXwEUv0m-gNDpgcg=&amp;h=557&amp;w=744&amp;sz=63&amp;hl=en&amp;start=0&amp;zoom=1&amp;tbnid=WNF4-jCGeEBp7M:&amp;tbnh=126&amp;tbnw=156&amp;ei=AWMxTbjhEsK88gbI4azQCA&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddescent%2Bjourneys%2Bin%2Bthe%2Bdark%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26biw%3D1419%26bih%3D657%26tbs%3Disch:1&amp;um=1&amp;itbs=1&amp;iact=hc&amp;vpx=1045&amp;vpy=329&amp;dur=515&amp;hovh=194&amp;hovw=260&amp;tx=127&amp;ty=104&amp;oei=AWMxTbjhEsK88gbI4azQCA&amp;esq=1&amp;page=1&amp;ndsp=30&amp;ved=1t:429,r:20,s:0" target="_blank">Google Image Result for http://www.majhost.com/gallery/MK-Ultra71/BGG/Alan/descent06.jpg</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;The Ravenloft Board Game Dragon: <a href="http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://castlesandcooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/IMG00069-20101008-1557.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://castlesandcooks.com/2010/10/11/nyc-comic-con-dd-castle-ravenloft-impressions/&amp;usg=__DpZUI6XwRxnEQpgxTCM0QOGnnEU=&amp;h=600&amp;w=800&amp;sz=116&amp;hl=en&amp;start=78&amp;zoom=1&amp;tbnid=Zvx6wKDtEKmteM:&amp;tbnh=158&amp;tbnw=224&amp;ei=6WMxTcKDJcK_gQexqa3SCw&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcastle%2Bravenloft%2Bboard%2Bgame%2Bmini%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26biw%3D1419%26bih%3D657%26tbs%3Disch:1&amp;um=1&amp;itbs=1&amp;iact=rc&amp;dur=94&amp;oei=1mMxTd6lKoO88gbn-8DaCA&amp;esq=6&amp;page=5&amp;ndsp=18&amp;ved=1t:429,r:15,s:78&amp;tx=133&amp;ty=79" target="_blank">Google Image Result for http://castlesandcooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/IMG00069-20101008-1557.jpg</a>&nbsp;Descent: <a href="http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3538/3673651175_1640559e29.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/14936293%40N03/3673651175/&amp;usg=__VWfk-IVBiV4-TCiDYw6zrhJl25Q=&amp;h=375&amp;w=500&amp;sz=155&amp;hl=en&amp;start=0&amp;zoom=1&amp;tbnid=tHjV_j-0fSIiEM:&amp;tbnh=126&amp;tbnw=168&amp;ei=rmQxTaHXEsmr8AaEzb3NCA&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddescent%2Bjourneys%2Bin%2Bthe%2Bdark%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26biw%3D1419%26bih%3D657%26tbs%3Disch:1&amp;um=1&amp;itbs=1&amp;iact=hc&amp;vpx=301&amp;vpy=329&amp;dur=109&amp;hovh=194&amp;hovw=259&amp;tx=127&amp;ty=105&amp;oei=rmQxTaHXEsmr8AaEzb3NCA&amp;esq=1&amp;page=1&amp;ndsp=30&amp;ved=1t:429,r:15,s:0" target="_blank">Google Image Result for http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3538/3673651175_1640559e29.jpg</a>&nbsp;D&amp;D: <a href="http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic789657_md.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/556046/game-1-to-find-the-icon-of-ravenloft-pictorial&amp;usg=__-kLVP6pe4DKjpUOMCk3Hy6S6j3Y=&amp;h=375&amp;w=500&amp;sz=40&amp;hl=en&amp;start=0&amp;zoom=1&amp;tbnid=eaN--_1qjM53_M:&amp;tbnh=127&amp;tbnw=169&amp;ei=8WQxTdOpPML38Aafu9jJCA&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3Dravenloft%2Bboard%2Bgame%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26biw%3D1419%26bih%3D657%26tbs%3Disch:1&amp;um=1&amp;itbs=1&amp;iact=hc&amp;vpx=1012&amp;vpy=203&amp;dur=22370&amp;hovh=194&amp;hovw=259&amp;tx=164&amp;ty=109&amp;oei=8WQxTdOpPML38Aafu9jJCA&amp;esq=1&amp;page=1&amp;ndsp=32&amp;ved=1t:429,r:14,s:0" target="_blank">Google Image Result for http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic789657_md.jpg</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;Both are around the same price; I think at one time Descent was more, but it's an older game now. Ravenloft comes with 40 minis and card stock dungeon tiles. Descent has 80, and uses the dungeon parts that can be seen in the pictures of the game. While D&amp;D has less minis, I'm going to hazard a guess that they are a little more diverse (I have only passing experience with the game.) While Descent does have more, a lot of them are the same figures over and over again; also, Descent pieces aren't all perfectly square/round like D&amp;D minis are. For example; without getting it out and looking, I think the Descent dragon has a 2 by 3 base.&nbsp;&nbsp;The point?&nbsp;If you're looking for D&amp;D style minis -and don't want to buy minis from other sources- you can find some in the D&amp;D games. If you want minis, and aren't concerned with a lot of variety (let's say you need a lot of one type for minions or whatever,) it might behoove you to pick up a box of Descent. With a little paint, Descent figures (and I imagine the Ravenloft ones as well) can turn out pretty nice.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;edit: I'm not sure if the first link is working.&nbsp; It doesn't seem to be for me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Argyle King, post: 5430110, member: 58416"] I was mistaken about the dragon I think. It had been a while since I had a close look at Descent. The style of the pieces seems somewhat similar, but they are not the same. I apologize ahead of time for the length of the links... Here's a link which will show one of the Descent dragons: [URL="http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.majhost.com/gallery/MK-Ultra71/BGG/Alan/descent06.jpg&imgrefurl=http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/440803/descent-first-game-experience&usg=__8JhuhvbH2NDDXwEUv0m-gNDpgcg=&h=557&w=744&sz=63&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=WNF4-jCGeEBp7M:&tbnh=126&tbnw=156&ei=AWMxTbjhEsK88gbI4azQCA&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddescent%2Bjourneys%2Bin%2Bthe%2Bdark%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26biw%3D1419%26bih%3D657%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=1045&vpy=329&dur=515&hovh=194&hovw=260&tx=127&ty=104&oei=AWMxTbjhEsK88gbI4azQCA&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=30&ved=1t:429,r:20,s:0"]Google Image Result for http://www.majhost.com/gallery/MK-Ultra71/BGG/Alan/descent06.jpg[/URL] The Ravenloft Board Game Dragon: [URL="http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://castlesandcooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/IMG00069-20101008-1557.jpg&imgrefurl=http://castlesandcooks.com/2010/10/11/nyc-comic-con-dd-castle-ravenloft-impressions/&usg=__DpZUI6XwRxnEQpgxTCM0QOGnnEU=&h=600&w=800&sz=116&hl=en&start=78&zoom=1&tbnid=Zvx6wKDtEKmteM:&tbnh=158&tbnw=224&ei=6WMxTcKDJcK_gQexqa3SCw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcastle%2Bravenloft%2Bboard%2Bgame%2Bmini%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26biw%3D1419%26bih%3D657%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=94&oei=1mMxTd6lKoO88gbn-8DaCA&esq=6&page=5&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:15,s:78&tx=133&ty=79"]Google Image Result for http://castlesandcooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/IMG00069-20101008-1557.jpg[/URL] Descent: [URL="http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3538/3673651175_1640559e29.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/14936293%40N03/3673651175/&usg=__VWfk-IVBiV4-TCiDYw6zrhJl25Q=&h=375&w=500&sz=155&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=tHjV_j-0fSIiEM:&tbnh=126&tbnw=168&ei=rmQxTaHXEsmr8AaEzb3NCA&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddescent%2Bjourneys%2Bin%2Bthe%2Bdark%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26biw%3D1419%26bih%3D657%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=301&vpy=329&dur=109&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=127&ty=105&oei=rmQxTaHXEsmr8AaEzb3NCA&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=30&ved=1t:429,r:15,s:0"]Google Image Result for http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3538/3673651175_1640559e29.jpg[/URL] D&D: [URL="http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic789657_md.jpg&imgrefurl=http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/556046/game-1-to-find-the-icon-of-ravenloft-pictorial&usg=__-kLVP6pe4DKjpUOMCk3Hy6S6j3Y=&h=375&w=500&sz=40&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=eaN--_1qjM53_M:&tbnh=127&tbnw=169&ei=8WQxTdOpPML38Aafu9jJCA&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dravenloft%2Bboard%2Bgame%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26biw%3D1419%26bih%3D657%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=1012&vpy=203&dur=22370&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=164&ty=109&oei=8WQxTdOpPML38Aafu9jJCA&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=32&ved=1t:429,r:14,s:0"]Google Image Result for http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic789657_md.jpg[/URL] Both are around the same price; I think at one time Descent was more, but it's an older game now. Ravenloft comes with 40 minis and card stock dungeon tiles. Descent has 80, and uses the dungeon parts that can be seen in the pictures of the game. While D&D has less minis, I'm going to hazard a guess that they are a little more diverse (I have only passing experience with the game.) While Descent does have more, a lot of them are the same figures over and over again; also, Descent pieces aren't all perfectly square/round like D&D minis are. For example; without getting it out and looking, I think the Descent dragon has a 2 by 3 base. The point? If you're looking for D&D style minis -and don't want to buy minis from other sources- you can find some in the D&D games. If you want minis, and aren't concerned with a lot of variety (let's say you need a lot of one type for minions or whatever,) it might behoove you to pick up a box of Descent. With a little paint, Descent figures (and I imagine the Ravenloft ones as well) can turn out pretty nice. edit: I'm not sure if the first link is working. It doesn't seem to be for me. [/QUOTE]

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