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<blockquote data-quote="Lizard" data-source="post: 4098131" data-attributes="member: 1054">I know; I was there. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I had just started freelancing for Pelgrane and Dying Earth, and then I got stuff into Relics&amp;Rituals, and then I began doing a ton of work for FFG, all in the first few months after 3e was released. I actually ran a game of 3e a few weeks *before* GenCon, using the PHB in Word format Ryan Dancey emailed to people on the OGF-L list. I still have that Word doc on my hard drive somewhere. (Note this was the PHB, not the SRD, and he just sent it out to us.)That's a big difference. WOTC asked developers to trust them -- the gentleman's agreement and the long wait for the formal OGL/STL/SRD -- and they, in turn, showed they trusted developers. This is a far, far, cry from &quot;We won't even show you the *license* unless you pony up 5K&quot;. Never mind early release of the SRD -- the *license* *itself* is being kept secret from the public. That's a major point of confusion to me; what can be in the *license* that is proprietary, as opposed to the content released under the license?I'm only &quot;griping&quot; because the license itself is being treated as a state secret. That worries me.The GSL is a lot more like the old licenses TSR used to forge with Judge's Guild, et al, than it is the OGL, and that's their right, but it's a very different beast and is very much not, IMO, continuing the 'spirit' of the OGL.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lizard, post: 4098131, member: 1054"] I know; I was there. :) I had just started freelancing for Pelgrane and Dying Earth, and then I got stuff into Relics&Rituals, and then I began doing a ton of work for FFG, all in the first few months after 3e was released. I actually ran a game of 3e a few weeks *before* GenCon, using the PHB in Word format Ryan Dancey emailed to people on the OGF-L list. I still have that Word doc on my hard drive somewhere. (Note this was the PHB, not the SRD, and he just sent it out to us.) That's a big difference. WOTC asked developers to trust them -- the gentleman's agreement and the long wait for the formal OGL/STL/SRD -- and they, in turn, showed they trusted developers. This is a far, far, cry from "We won't even show you the *license* unless you pony up 5K". Never mind early release of the SRD -- the *license* *itself* is being kept secret from the public. That's a major point of confusion to me; what can be in the *license* that is proprietary, as opposed to the content released under the license? I'm only "griping" because the license itself is being treated as a state secret. That worries me. The GSL is a lot more like the old licenses TSR used to forge with Judge's Guild, et al, than it is the OGL, and that's their right, but it's a very different beast and is very much not, IMO, continuing the 'spirit' of the OGL. [/QUOTE]

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