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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9333640" data-attributes="member: 7006">Not to mention that if (general) you want your PC to be a good swimmer but poor climber, you can just not bother having your PC climb things.&nbsp; Don't do anything climbing-wise that requires an Athletics check and you can be the poor climber you always wanted to be by not ever climbing, even if your Athletics modifier is fairly good.It's no different than wanting to play a klutzy character but having a DEX of 8.&nbsp; The stat says the PC is &quot;less agile&quot; than average person but not a klutz... but that doesn't mean you can't just play your character as a klutz and intentionally do things klutzy. That's what roleplaying is, isn't it?&nbsp; Playing a role?&nbsp; And you don't need game mechanics to force the role, you can just play it.&nbsp; Does it help sometimes to have mechanics in the ballpark?&nbsp; Sure.&nbsp; But is it required?&nbsp; Nope.&nbsp; Especially considering that even a so-called klutzy character with a DEX of 4 (and a -3 modifier) is still going to roll 18s, 19s, and 20s on occasion and do things completely dexterous and graceful.&nbsp; So no one should rely on game mechanics to play out your character concept... you have to more often than not make intentional narrative choices that product your concept's results.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 9333640, member: 7006"] Not to mention that if (general) you want your PC to be a good swimmer but poor climber, you can just not bother having your PC climb things. Don't do anything climbing-wise that requires an Athletics check and you can be the poor climber you always wanted to be by not ever climbing, even if your Athletics modifier is fairly good. It's no different than wanting to play a klutzy character but having a DEX of 8. The stat says the PC is "less agile" than average person but not a klutz... but that doesn't mean you can't just play your character as a klutz and intentionally do things klutzy. That's what roleplaying is, isn't it? Playing a role? And you don't need game mechanics to force the role, you can just play it. Does it help sometimes to have mechanics in the ballpark? Sure. But is it required? Nope. Especially considering that even a so-called klutzy character with a DEX of 4 (and a -3 modifier) is still going to roll 18s, 19s, and 20s on occasion and do things completely dexterous and graceful. So no one should [I]rely[/I] on game mechanics to play out your character concept... you have to more often than not make intentional narrative choices that product your concept's results. [/QUOTE]

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