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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9333792" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Yes, I offered and explanation for elves and dwarves having more tool proficiencies because of age. As for why gnomes don't get this option, gnomes don't start with Weapon Proficiencies. Dwarves and Elves do. I can't help that. To be able to switch a weapon proficiency for a tool proficiency... you need a weapon proficiency in the first place.Sure, and I've attempted to address that argument, not ignore it like you claimed. But even if I were to accept that argument... elves, githyanki and hobgoblins DON'T have that &quot;well thought out&quot; design of getting +2/+2. Heck, Elves get longswords and +2 dex, then +1 int or wisdom. They can't use longswords with any of those stats.And I agree, and I offered a theorical compensation for it already.You.. responded to me? I was answering an explanation for someone else, and then you came in and started telling me how much you hate the rule. I don't have a problem with you not liking it, but if you are going to jump into a conversation and start attacking a post I made, I'm going to defend my post.I never once said you can't not like it. You just saw me saying I did like it, and felt the need to start telling me how much you hate it and how my explanation for how it works for elves and dwarves is nonsense because gnomes don't have weapon proficiencies to swap, but they are also long-lived.Um... because I am pretty sure Mountain Dwarves had a +2 strength and +2 Con in older editions? I could be wrong, I didn't exactly pull out all the old PHBs to cross-reference mountain dwarf, but they were always depicted as the stronger of the two types of dwarf, right?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9333792, member: 6801228"] Yes, I offered and explanation for elves and dwarves having more tool proficiencies because of age. As for why gnomes don't get this option, gnomes don't start with Weapon Proficiencies. Dwarves and Elves do. I can't help that. To be able to switch a weapon proficiency for a tool proficiency... you need a weapon proficiency in the first place. Sure, and I've attempted to address that argument, not ignore it like you claimed. But even if I were to accept that argument... elves, githyanki and hobgoblins DON'T have that "well thought out" design of getting +2/+2. Heck, Elves get longswords and +2 dex, then +1 int or wisdom. They can't use longswords with any of those stats. And I agree, and I offered a theorical compensation for it already. You.. responded to me? I was answering an explanation for someone else, and then you came in and started telling me how much you hate the rule. I don't have a problem with you not liking it, but if you are going to jump into a conversation and start attacking a post I made, I'm going to defend my post. I never once said you can't not like it. You just saw me saying I did like it, and felt the need to start telling me how much you hate it and how my explanation for how it works for elves and dwarves is nonsense because gnomes don't have weapon proficiencies to swap, but they are also long-lived. Um... because I am pretty sure Mountain Dwarves had a +2 strength and +2 Con in older editions? I could be wrong, I didn't exactly pull out all the old PHBs to cross-reference mountain dwarf, but they were always depicted as the stronger of the two types of dwarf, right? [/QUOTE]

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