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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 4132188" data-attributes="member: 5143"><p>From what I can tell from talking to the R&D people at DDXP, the designers truly do believe in the math of the new system. It doesn't matter WHICH creature the PCs are fighting, just what level they are.</p><p></p><p>And I've been told that most "experiments" with throwing groups up against higher level monsters have shown that groups can defeat APL+7 sometimes. Which means 1st level characters fighting(and winning) against level 8 monsters.</p><p></p><p>Monster do get harder as they increase in level. However, the amount of difficulty is fairly small as you can likely tell from the released monsters</p><p></p><p>Level is VERY accurate in most cases, though. You don't have to look at a monster and say, "Whoa, it has an area of effect attack that does 40 damage on average. It'll kill the wizard if it hits, I can't use that monster." And this is because the damage the monsters do is based on the same formula as everything else. If 40 damage is appropriate for a 25th level monster(making up numbers now) then you won't see any 15th level monsters doing 40 damage.</p><p></p><p>Mike Mearls was a little taken aback by the fact that people were complaining that the dragon was too hard when I talked to him. He basically said "It's a 5th level monster, it should be perfectly appropriate." He had a confused look on his face for a large part of the con as people kept asking him about how powerful the dragon was until he later figured out that the dragon being used was from an older copy of the Monster Manual before they fixed a small piece of the math.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 4132188, member: 5143"] From what I can tell from talking to the R&D people at DDXP, the designers truly do believe in the math of the new system. It doesn't matter WHICH creature the PCs are fighting, just what level they are. And I've been told that most "experiments" with throwing groups up against higher level monsters have shown that groups can defeat APL+7 sometimes. Which means 1st level characters fighting(and winning) against level 8 monsters. Monster do get harder as they increase in level. However, the amount of difficulty is fairly small as you can likely tell from the released monsters Level is VERY accurate in most cases, though. You don't have to look at a monster and say, "Whoa, it has an area of effect attack that does 40 damage on average. It'll kill the wizard if it hits, I can't use that monster." And this is because the damage the monsters do is based on the same formula as everything else. If 40 damage is appropriate for a 25th level monster(making up numbers now) then you won't see any 15th level monsters doing 40 damage. Mike Mearls was a little taken aback by the fact that people were complaining that the dragon was too hard when I talked to him. He basically said "It's a 5th level monster, it should be perfectly appropriate." He had a confused look on his face for a large part of the con as people kept asking him about how powerful the dragon was until he later figured out that the dragon being used was from an older copy of the Monster Manual before they fixed a small piece of the math. [/QUOTE]
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