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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 9485299" data-attributes="member: 83242"><p>It is all one of perspective.</p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">You quibbled about 2 of the 6 rather major setting things I mentioned. So I assume the other four you agree with?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">I love 4e, the Dawn War, Primordials, etc. However, I was never a big fan of the Raven Queen (not going to discuss why unless you ask). Nonetheless, she <strong>was</strong> brought over (but no Torog <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />) and you are free to use her 4e lore. In fact, in the video about the lore chapter in the 2024 DMG they said she is specifically enigmatic. We don't know if she is a god, archfey, or something else. They leave it up to you. So no, her lore wasn't butchered, they just added more to her mystery.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">IMO, the First World bears a lot of resemblance to the creation story in the Dawn War. Tiamat and Bahamut are referred to as "primordial" dragons, different from but on par with gods. They created the First World and then the gods came and war broke out, which ended up creating the Prime Material and its echoes. This shares a lot of similarities to the Dawn War. We had a lot more specifics of the Dawn War, but there just hasn't been much written on the First World (yet). Also, WotC has been very clear that the version in Fizban's is what dragon believe, not necessarily the truth (Bigby's implies giants have a different version). For me they are sufficiently close to merge the two ideas as different perspectives on the same conflict.</li> </ol><p>I will say I treat lore very loosely. I use what I like, drop what I don't, and enjoy blending different versions of lore across the editions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 9485299, member: 83242"] It is all one of perspective. [LIST=1] [*]You quibbled about 2 of the 6 rather major setting things I mentioned. So I assume the other four you agree with? [*]I love 4e, the Dawn War, Primordials, etc. However, I was never a big fan of the Raven Queen (not going to discuss why unless you ask). Nonetheless, she [B]was[/B] brought over (but no Torog :() and you are free to use her 4e lore. In fact, in the video about the lore chapter in the 2024 DMG they said she is specifically enigmatic. We don't know if she is a god, archfey, or something else. They leave it up to you. So no, her lore wasn't butchered, they just added more to her mystery. [*]IMO, the First World bears a lot of resemblance to the creation story in the Dawn War. Tiamat and Bahamut are referred to as "primordial" dragons, different from but on par with gods. They created the First World and then the gods came and war broke out, which ended up creating the Prime Material and its echoes. This shares a lot of similarities to the Dawn War. We had a lot more specifics of the Dawn War, but there just hasn't been much written on the First World (yet). Also, WotC has been very clear that the version in Fizban's is what dragon believe, not necessarily the truth (Bigby's implies giants have a different version). For me they are sufficiently close to merge the two ideas as different perspectives on the same conflict. [/LIST] I will say I treat lore very loosely. I use what I like, drop what I don't, and enjoy blending different versions of lore across the editions. [/QUOTE]
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