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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DrunkonDuty" data-source="post: 9488628" data-attributes="member: 54364">I think the reason any given campaign setting resonates with any given person is due to whatever conceits that that campaign setting has. And certainly "humanocentric" is a long established conceit of Greyhawk. I have to say it's not one I've personally ever much cared about. Look, we're old. Old-ish. We like things the way they were. Us, and every generation of old farts that has come before. But this is a new product for a new generation. If it's got differences to previous versions of the product, so be it. We can grumble about it if we want. For me, humanocentric could be dilluted by the addition of a half dozen non-human nations. Or even, and I know I won't make many friends saying this, turn some of those existing nations into confederations* of various peoples. E.g.: given it's location I can easily see Furyondy being a human/elven confederation. Veluna even more so.* By confederation I mean that the incoming Oeridian (etc) tribes merged with the pre-existing peoples to form states. This allows for politically influential nobles of various species in some/many/all of the new states. We have precedents (Snarf, I'm sure you love a good precedent) for such confederations. The Uleks are human/nonhuman and several states are confederations of various human tribes.In full agreement here.I agree one doesn't need to. But what does "sense" have to do with it? Do you mean internally cohesive? We (well, WotC) are making a fantasy world. It can have whatever internal cohesion it requires written into it.A version of Greyhawk I did up I would go with Dragonborn being associated with the old Baklunish Empire and thus have any states they formed be much further north. Yeomanry as a dragonborn state wouldn't make for internal cohesion in my Greyhawk. Ket would though. But that's just me.Again, in agreement. Also, I did notice you used deus ex machina when mentioning Warforged. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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