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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9489155" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>I consider the 2024 Flanaess to be the only canon. Even then it is a "you can use this if you want to". A DM can rework it in any way.</p><p></p><p>At the same time, there will be a community of DMs interested in updating the earlier versions of Greyhawk to the 2024 canon.</p><p></p><p></p><p>For reference, here is what the rest of the planet looks like according to the earlier versions. Flanaess is the top-right corner of this map.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]383653[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Notes.</p><p>• Dragons Island is a convenient location for the origin of Dragonborn.</p><p>• Orcreich is a convenient location for the origin of Orcs.</p><p>• Within Flanaess itself (not labeled here), Iuz and Horned Society are locations for prominent Tiefling communities.</p><p></p><p>Among the Human cultures:</p><p>• Tarquish Empire corresponds the classical Roman Empire, and includes Spain, Greece and coastal parts of Turkey, relating to Constantinople, plus other Mediterranean regions. (Note image of the Greek ship trieres.) The name Tarquish and its cultures originate from the French comic series that takes place in West Oerik with TSR permission, where its Lynn corresponds France and Germany of the Holy Roman Empire, and its Erypt is Egypt and Arabia and eslewhere nearby.</p><p>• The Jotnumheim Sea with Gigantea and the Elven Lands correspond the Nordic Lands. The name is actually Norse and means the "home" for the "jǫtnar", and refers to the Norse jǫtunn nature being. The Elven Lands allude to historical Alfheimr region, on the border of Norway and Sweden, where traditions mention a prominent family who descend from Elves.</p><p>• The Mare Mysticum coastlands correspond the British Islands ("Thalos"), Belgium, and Netherlands.</p><p></p><p>Re the connections between the Flanaess ethnicities and the rest of the planet:</p><p>It seems the Oeridians of Flanaess are a colony from the Tarquish Empire, more specifically from its Spainesque area. The Suel of Flanaess are a colony from Thalos of the Mare Mysticum area. The Norsesque "Cruski, Schnai, and Fruzti" cultures make more sense as colonies directly from the coastlands of the Jotnumheim Sea, especially Gigantea. But the Sueloise who spread across the continent of Flanaess would eventually make contact with them and share some affinity with them form West Oerik. Regarding Hepmonaland which corresponds South America, it makes more sense to say some Sueloise married into some of the Indigenous of Hepmonaland (rather than became its Indigenous as 1980 would have it). The Indigenous of Flanaess are Flan, corresponding Indigenous Americans. Fortunately Gygax describes the Flan respectfully, and I am not aware of any culturally sensitive issues with regard to Flan. The Indigenous of Hepmonaland and Amedio would be related to Flan, but develop their own cultures.</p><p></p><p>The above is a way to accommodate all of the D&D traditions concerning Greyhawk. Obviously, each DM can do whatever one wants.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 9489155, member: 58172"] I consider the 2024 Flanaess to be the only canon. Even then it is a "you can use this if you want to". A DM can rework it in any way. At the same time, there will be a community of DMs interested in updating the earlier versions of Greyhawk to the 2024 canon. For reference, here is what the rest of the planet looks like according to the earlier versions. Flanaess is the top-right corner of this map. [ATTACH type="full" alt="Greyhawk Oerth (1996 Dragon Magazine Annual 1).png"]383653[/ATTACH] Notes. • Dragons Island is a convenient location for the origin of Dragonborn. • Orcreich is a convenient location for the origin of Orcs. • Within Flanaess itself (not labeled here), Iuz and Horned Society are locations for prominent Tiefling communities. Among the Human cultures: • Tarquish Empire corresponds the classical Roman Empire, and includes Spain, Greece and coastal parts of Turkey, relating to Constantinople, plus other Mediterranean regions. (Note image of the Greek ship trieres.) The name Tarquish and its cultures originate from the French comic series that takes place in West Oerik with TSR permission, where its Lynn corresponds France and Germany of the Holy Roman Empire, and its Erypt is Egypt and Arabia and eslewhere nearby. • The Jotnumheim Sea with Gigantea and the Elven Lands correspond the Nordic Lands. The name is actually Norse and means the "home" for the "jǫtnar", and refers to the Norse jǫtunn nature being. The Elven Lands allude to historical Alfheimr region, on the border of Norway and Sweden, where traditions mention a prominent family who descend from Elves. • The Mare Mysticum coastlands correspond the British Islands ("Thalos"), Belgium, and Netherlands. Re the connections between the Flanaess ethnicities and the rest of the planet: It seems the Oeridians of Flanaess are a colony from the Tarquish Empire, more specifically from its Spainesque area. The Suel of Flanaess are a colony from Thalos of the Mare Mysticum area. The Norsesque "Cruski, Schnai, and Fruzti" cultures make more sense as colonies directly from the coastlands of the Jotnumheim Sea, especially Gigantea. But the Sueloise who spread across the continent of Flanaess would eventually make contact with them and share some affinity with them form West Oerik. Regarding Hepmonaland which corresponds South America, it makes more sense to say some Sueloise married into some of the Indigenous of Hepmonaland (rather than became its Indigenous as 1980 would have it). The Indigenous of Flanaess are Flan, corresponding Indigenous Americans. Fortunately Gygax describes the Flan respectfully, and I am not aware of any culturally sensitive issues with regard to Flan. The Indigenous of Hepmonaland and Amedio would be related to Flan, but develop their own cultures. The above is a way to accommodate all of the D&D traditions concerning Greyhawk. Obviously, each DM can do whatever one wants. [/QUOTE]
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