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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TwiceBorn2" data-source="post: 9494239" data-attributes="member: 7017725">I'm Canadian, and I'm not convinced that this is correct.You don't think Wegwiur could have been derived from the real life Uyghur (i.e., indigenous peoples of northwestern China)? <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghurs" target="_blank">Uyghurs - Wikipedia</a>Greyhawk's Wegwiur are ruled by a Tarkhan, and historically, the Uyghur were part of a Khaganate... I know of no indigenous Canadians who had "khans" (whether Tarkhans or others) as rulers or who belonged to a Khanate or Khaganate.So while the map of the Flanaess might have been drawn using the Great Lakes area as a rough template, I don't think you can automatically extrapolate that the northern nomads of the Flanaess are culturally similar to the pre- or even post-colonization indigenous peoples of North America, when Gygax seems to have been as influenced by the Uyghur and other central Asian cultures when creating the Wegwiur and Chakyik (who are ruled by an Ilkhan). Let's face it, Gygax didn't write much about those nations/cultures (or any other, really), I believe his intent was to leave them as vague and undefined as possible so that DMs could "make the Flanaess their own."And I suspect you'll raise the Rovers of the Barrens (People of the Plentiful Hunting Lands) as further proof of the "indigenous Canadian" roots of those peoples, who intermarried with the Wegwiur. Yes, there was an adventure (not written by Gygax) in an issue of Dungeon Magazine that definitely made those peoples seem like indigenous North Americans, culturally speaking. But the description in that adventure didn't really match the Rovers as depicted in the 1980 Folio or 1983 Guide... just another example of "make the world your own with what little info we've given you."EDIT: ultimately, if your "head cannon" tells you that the Chakyik and Wegwiur are modelled after the indigenous peoples of North America, then by all means, you do you. No sense in forcing that vision, which is only marginally supported by official sources, on everyone. Only a Pholtan would do that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />EDIT 2: also, keep in mind that there are hundreds of indigenous nations in Canada, with their own unique cultures and histories. The Blackfoot and the Inuvialuit may both be indigenous peoples that are part of what today is Canada... but they are very unique culturally and historically.EDIT 3: for further reference re Canada's indigenous populations, see this link: <a href="https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/first-nations?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw7Py4BhCbARIsAMMx-_Ky_U0z3RKPEQP2RhV2S9x60t6-oaVl0eBGLOSerIVFcGvRJFYrRoEaAkhSEALw_wcB" target="_blank">First Nations in Canada</a></blockquote>

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