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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9502147" data-attributes="member: 58172">I dont understand how adding species &quot;changes&quot; Greyhawk. Greyhawk is and has always been kitchen-sink gonzo.The 1983 Greyhawk mentions the existence of nonhumans. For example, some of those mountain ranges have massive dwarven civilizations. Yet the lists of dukes and counts and barons IGNORES the existence of these nonhuman civilizations.For 5e 2024 to remind people that the nonhumans are part of the fabric of Flanaess too is ... obvious.There are dragons who prevail in a number of Flanaess regions. Some of these dragons hatched dragonborns from their own eggs. This is inherently consistent within the Greyhawk premise.There is a demon (Grazzt) and a demon offspring (Iuz) in the heart of Flanaess itself. How can it be a &quot;change&quot;, they brought a bunch of Abyssal tielfings with them? How can it be a discontinuity if Good tieflings from elsewhere arrived to help defend against the Evil tieflings. This is inherently consistent within the Greyhawk premise.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 9502147, member: 58172"] I dont understand how adding species "changes" Greyhawk. Greyhawk is and has always been kitchen-sink gonzo. The 1983 Greyhawk mentions the existence of nonhumans. For example, some of those mountain ranges have massive dwarven civilizations. Yet the lists of dukes and counts and barons IGNORES the existence of these nonhuman civilizations. For 5e 2024 to remind people that the nonhumans are part of the fabric of Flanaess too is ... obvious. There are dragons who prevail in a number of Flanaess regions. Some of these dragons hatched dragonborns from their own eggs. This is inherently consistent within the Greyhawk premise. There is a demon (Grazzt) and a demon offspring (Iuz) in the heart of Flanaess itself. How can it be a "change", they brought a bunch of Abyssal tielfings with them? How can it be a discontinuity if Good tieflings from elsewhere arrived to help defend against the Evil tieflings. This is inherently consistent within the Greyhawk premise. [/QUOTE]

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