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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 8039836" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>Except it's language of exclusion. There are people who would be very good at the job, who will not understand some of the language used. Because the skills used in being good at that kind of human resources job are not the same as the skills used in reductionist corporate language translation. </p><p></p><p>For example, one part of that position is trying to make it easier to recruit people of color. Someone who has a lot of contacts with related fields that might have people who could be interested in moving over to the RPG field might not speak HR speak. But if one of your goals is to attract more people of color, excluding those with such contacts because your job advertisement uses HR corporate jargon isn't a wise move. </p><p></p><p>The goal here is to make a fundamental change to the way the company has done business in the past. Posting an ad full of HR corporate speak is just more of the same thing they've always done. That's the same method they've used to recruit a bunch of white upper class corporate guys which got them into this in the first place. You'd think if they wanted change, the would start with the ad seeking the person who they want to enact that change, right?</p><p></p><p>This kind of HR corporate jargon also tends to attract employees who also communicate like that to the other people in the company who would not have the skills to translate it. Which results in memos which get ignored for the density of absurd corporate speak, people who don't understand the goals they're supposed to achieve or the methods used to measure those goals, eye rolling at corporate meetings, and a lack of communication. </p><p></p><p>It also happens to be the kind of jargon which tends to be best understood by the same upper class white good old boy system that's been there for decades. </p><p></p><p>There is no good reason for that level of "efficiency" in corporate communications like this and there hasn't been since the Internet was commonly used for this kind of communication. You're not "saving space" for any good reason.</p><p></p><p>I am with WayOfTheFourElements on this one. For years as a corporate attorney I used corporate speak in memos because it's just what corporations do. But eventually, I found it was failing to communicate important concepts to employees throughout the company, and it was alienating some people who were good at their jobs. And I had to fight an uphill battle to force executives to stop using it so much. And it worked. Morale improved, people understood the goals being set for then, communication improved, and the company was more often all moving in the same direction on projects.</p><p></p><p>Some in the industry agree with me on this, and think <a href="https://www.tlnt.com/how-hr-speak-hurts-hr-and-some-hr-words-that-should-be-banned/" target="_blank">HR speak hurts HR</a>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 8039836, member: 2525"] Except it's language of exclusion. There are people who would be very good at the job, who will not understand some of the language used. Because the skills used in being good at that kind of human resources job are not the same as the skills used in reductionist corporate language translation. For example, one part of that position is trying to make it easier to recruit people of color. Someone who has a lot of contacts with related fields that might have people who could be interested in moving over to the RPG field might not speak HR speak. But if one of your goals is to attract more people of color, excluding those with such contacts because your job advertisement uses HR corporate jargon isn't a wise move. The goal here is to make a fundamental change to the way the company has done business in the past. Posting an ad full of HR corporate speak is just more of the same thing they've always done. That's the same method they've used to recruit a bunch of white upper class corporate guys which got them into this in the first place. You'd think if they wanted change, the would start with the ad seeking the person who they want to enact that change, right? This kind of HR corporate jargon also tends to attract employees who also communicate like that to the other people in the company who would not have the skills to translate it. Which results in memos which get ignored for the density of absurd corporate speak, people who don't understand the goals they're supposed to achieve or the methods used to measure those goals, eye rolling at corporate meetings, and a lack of communication. It also happens to be the kind of jargon which tends to be best understood by the same upper class white good old boy system that's been there for decades. There is no good reason for that level of "efficiency" in corporate communications like this and there hasn't been since the Internet was commonly used for this kind of communication. You're not "saving space" for any good reason. I am with WayOfTheFourElements on this one. For years as a corporate attorney I used corporate speak in memos because it's just what corporations do. But eventually, I found it was failing to communicate important concepts to employees throughout the company, and it was alienating some people who were good at their jobs. And I had to fight an uphill battle to force executives to stop using it so much. And it worked. Morale improved, people understood the goals being set for then, communication improved, and the company was more often all moving in the same direction on projects. Some in the industry agree with me on this, and think [URL='https://www.tlnt.com/how-hr-speak-hurts-hr-and-some-hr-words-that-should-be-banned/']HR speak hurts HR[/URL]. [/QUOTE]
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