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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zaruthustran" data-source="post: 929466" data-attributes="member: 1457">You're comparing prepainted plastic minis to unpainted unassembled plastic minis. The fact that the GW minis can be made to look better is not a revelation. You're comparing two unlike products.Again: many, many gamers don't want to bother with cutting minis from sprues, gluing them to bases, priming, painting, washing, drybrushing, touching up, sealing. They just want basic colorful figures to game with. The figures for the D&D Miniatures game can meet the needs of these gamers.The "stupid skirmish game" was the reason those figures existed. WotC was not trying to compete with Reaper or any of the other single figure manufacturers. It was selling a line of figures for use with an all-new game. In Chainmail's case, selling individually-packaged metal figures was a really bad idea. Since different figs have different power level/popularity, it's a nightmare keeping track of demand and making sure your retailers keep adequate stock. And as a player, if you see a cool new figure on the shelf, you can't buy and play with it right away. Nope, you've got to invest 3 hours MINIMUM to get the thing primed and painted. Over 24 hours if you take your time and actually let your primer and sealer dry properly. With each warband composed of 5-20 minis, and each mini taking requiring multiple hours of preperation, you can see why chainmail didn't take off. The rules were ok, but the packaging scheme and marketing strategy were terrible. What would be ideal for D&D RPG players is for WotC to offer theme packs of Commons for sale on their website. While a dirt retailer has very limited and expensive physical shelf space, a website has virtually unlimited shelf space. But in the meantime, I'm eager to try out the new game. And eager to add these instantly-usable plastic minis to my D&D RPG game. Just think: when they're down on the table, they look just about as good as a hand-painted mini. And instead of requiring custom-built miniatures cases, you can just toss handfuls of them into your dice bag or one of those disposable tupperware containers.-z</blockquote>

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