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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9625101" data-attributes="member: 18">Yeah, YouTube has a particularly crap system, which is routinely exploited by corrupt and criminal actors, and whilst YouTube have improved their protections slightly, this still happens to countless people every day. The big difference with YouTube is that they let entirely automated systems make claims on things that the operators of those systems have absolutely no proof of ownership of, and just assume they're being told the truth. My wife did a YouTube lets play of The Sims, carefully muted the sound and music (as you had to back then), just had her voice on it, and got repeatedly copyright claimed by some Estonian crooks who claimed they had the copyright to the faint sound of rain falling on our roof in one of the videos and/or the sound of her voice (which is most assuredly not Estonian!). Almost poetically evil! We did manage to reject it eventually because said crooks didn't want to try proving their ownership in court, but it was a ridiculous situation that caused a lot of unnecessary stress, and solely because YouTube makes so few efforts to police bad actors on their platforms.DMCA is a much higher standard though. It can't be fully automated and actually be legal, because you have to sign it. If you have a system automatically sending them out with a fake signature, but if the person who it claims "signed" it didn't actually even press a "sign here" button, yeah that's not actually legal. And WotC probably wouldn't hire a company so unprofessional as to do stuff like that. There should have been at least one human who stopped and thought "Huh, never sent a DMCA to these guys before, maybe we should consider/check with WotC before doing so", but apparently not? Or worse, they did, and WotC said "Go ahead and file that!".I'm also intrigued by the fact that WotC attempted to make the copyright claim here at all. Surely that should have been Larian? The BG3 copyright resides with Larian, and that still seems to be the case right now and there's no reason that would change. My understanding was that WotC were licenced to use the characters, but that doesn't normally mean you get to issue DMCAs etc. - rather you'd normally (as I understand it) ask the actual copyright owner (Larian) to issue the DMCA. Perhaps I'm out of date.</blockquote>

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