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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Agent Oracle" data-source="post: 3427547" data-attributes="member: 40076">Nooo... Munchkins inherently get away with everything they are capable of doing.  That's pretty damn munchkinny.Bear in mind though, at the level you are discussing, your opponent wins initiative, drops a quickened "Force cage" and "Dimensional Anchor" on you.  No save for either.  Suddenly, your mage is completely and totally locked down.  Cast your time stop, and watch in horror as the first delayed blast fireball zips from your staff, then promptly bonks into the invisible wall in front of you.  and drops at your feet.  Sure, you could hit it with a "disintegrate" spell, but by then your whole rhythm is screwed up, and you still have to move away from the fireball sitting at your feet, so you've got to move.  Try to teleport and... uh-oh! dimensional anchor! Overall, your Time Stop Trick has been seriously boned.Your plan: Burns 11 spells and seriously wipes out your top-shelf damagers.His plan: takes two middling-level spells and locks you down solidly.Or suppose the rogue gets initiative: He sees a caster, And twang goes his longbow! That's 30d6, damage possibly 40d6 if he's a bow specialist, possibly more!  Plus assorted magical bonuses and damage from whatever weapon he's using: gods help you if it's a magebane weapon! Can you say "Save vs. Massive damage?" All that gets tacked on to the concentration check for you to cast your time stop. Bad luck.Don't get me started on what the fighter with two prestige classes can do to you if he wins initiative.So basicly, for that to work: you have to (a) be absurdly high level (b) posess a selection of specific magical objects and (c) win initiative.</blockquote>

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