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<blockquote data-quote="Andor" data-source="post: 3783052" data-attributes="member: 1879"><p><strong>What does it mean to be a Fighter?</strong></p><p></p><p>This is a tough one, because there is no such thing as a fighter. Seriously. No one in the history of the world would ever have described themselves as a fighter. They might have been a Gladiator, a Knight, a Myrmideon, a Samurai, a professional Champion, a Sniper, a Legionaire, a Warrior, a Yamabushi, a Swashbuckler, a Pirate, a Musketeer or a Jannisary but not simply a 'fighter'. Conversely everyone is a fighter. Are you in a fight? Congrats, you're a fighter. </p><p></p><p>This is a problem that D&D has stuggled with in every edition. There has always been a base Fighter class, and even though it is inevitably described as covering all of the above roles, eventually it is realized that he does not and a slew of new classes, kits, prestiges classes and base classes pour forth to cover the Knight, the Swashbuckler, the Barbarian, etc...</p><p></p><p>So what is a Fighter? Above all he is someone who fights. He is the dedicated Martial Artist, who devotes his time to mastering the tools and strategems of War as defined by his climate, culture and available tech level. </p><p></p><p>Famous Fighters in History and Fantasy:</p><p>Conan</p><p>Henry the Black Prince</p><p>Roland</p><p>Charlemagne</p><p>Sir Lancelot</p><p>King Arthur</p><p>Miyamoto Musashi</p><p>Cyrano de Bergerac</p><p>d'Artagnan</p><p>Spartacus</p><p>Hercules</p><p></p><p><strong>What's cool that the Fighter does?</strong></p><p></p><p>The Fighter is the master of the battlefield. None can withstand his martial prowess nor pierce his clever strategems. He is the Master of weapons in general and likely has a prefered method of fighting that he excels at whether Rapier, Greatsword or even Wrestleing. </p><p></p><p><strong>What should the Fighter do?</strong></p><p></p><p>The Fighter should be the most flexible and malleable of the Archtypes. The Fighter class covers more men and more of history than any other class. The 3.x fighter was a good start, but still too limited, thus leading us to the endless proffusion of alternate fighter-type base classes like the Swashbuckler, the Samurai (both the excellent OA version and the excreable CW version), the Knight and the various variant rules in UA. </p><p></p><p>This can (and should) all be avoided by making the basic Fighter even more flexible. Let him choose which is his good save, be he stout Armsman, nimble Swashbuckler, or willfull Noble. Give him more skill points and above all a better skill list. It is <em>ludicrous</em> that Sense Motive is not on his list. Look at the example Fighters, they number famous Writers, Poets and Leaders amoungst their number. These are not uneducated louts, they never were. IMO the OA Samurai is a far superior class, even stripped of his Daisho and other cultural trappings. </p><p></p><p>So what does the Fighter do? He fights. He devotes much of his time to his martial prowess, whether to serve his country, defend his honor, or gain personal glory. (Or all 3)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Andor, post: 3783052, member: 1879"] [B]What does it mean to be a Fighter?[/B] This is a tough one, because there is no such thing as a fighter. Seriously. No one in the history of the world would ever have described themselves as a fighter. They might have been a Gladiator, a Knight, a Myrmideon, a Samurai, a professional Champion, a Sniper, a Legionaire, a Warrior, a Yamabushi, a Swashbuckler, a Pirate, a Musketeer or a Jannisary but not simply a 'fighter'. Conversely everyone is a fighter. Are you in a fight? Congrats, you're a fighter. This is a problem that D&D has stuggled with in every edition. There has always been a base Fighter class, and even though it is inevitably described as covering all of the above roles, eventually it is realized that he does not and a slew of new classes, kits, prestiges classes and base classes pour forth to cover the Knight, the Swashbuckler, the Barbarian, etc... So what is a Fighter? Above all he is someone who fights. He is the dedicated Martial Artist, who devotes his time to mastering the tools and strategems of War as defined by his climate, culture and available tech level. Famous Fighters in History and Fantasy: Conan Henry the Black Prince Roland Charlemagne Sir Lancelot King Arthur Miyamoto Musashi Cyrano de Bergerac d'Artagnan Spartacus Hercules [B]What's cool that the Fighter does?[/B] The Fighter is the master of the battlefield. None can withstand his martial prowess nor pierce his clever strategems. He is the Master of weapons in general and likely has a prefered method of fighting that he excels at whether Rapier, Greatsword or even Wrestleing. [B]What should the Fighter do?[/B] The Fighter should be the most flexible and malleable of the Archtypes. The Fighter class covers more men and more of history than any other class. The 3.x fighter was a good start, but still too limited, thus leading us to the endless proffusion of alternate fighter-type base classes like the Swashbuckler, the Samurai (both the excellent OA version and the excreable CW version), the Knight and the various variant rules in UA. This can (and should) all be avoided by making the basic Fighter even more flexible. Let him choose which is his good save, be he stout Armsman, nimble Swashbuckler, or willfull Noble. Give him more skill points and above all a better skill list. It is [i]ludicrous[/i] that Sense Motive is not on his list. Look at the example Fighters, they number famous Writers, Poets and Leaders amoungst their number. These are not uneducated louts, they never were. IMO the OA Samurai is a far superior class, even stripped of his Daisho and other cultural trappings. So what does the Fighter do? He fights. He devotes much of his time to his martial prowess, whether to serve his country, defend his honor, or gain personal glory. (Or all 3) [/QUOTE]
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