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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9729311" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Whereas<em> for me</em> I didn't vibe with Geralt at all (particularly in W2). Like 70% of the things I despise in an PC rolled into one.</p><p></p><p>1) Looks like a <em>right twat</em>. Sorry but he does. Tall, brooding and <em>fit as hell</em> so I get why chicks dig him in a "the absolute hottest 50-ish metal fan you ever saw" way but still.</p><p></p><p>2) Annoying accent (to be fair, Hawke has the same general accent as me, albeit more stage-y and less transatlantic, so I am biased in favour of that), though I did like his diction.</p><p></p><p>3) Allegedly "emotionless" character who is in fact extremely emotional, just like, an anti-social, zero empathy way (except when, randomly, for no apparent reason, he's really nice, when in the nearly exact same situation previously he was a huge callous jerk)</p><p></p><p>4) Character who "sees more clearly than others" but who absolutely just acts like a smug superior wanker who knows better than than everyone else.</p><p></p><p>5) Low charm (W3 was a lot better here than W2 where he had actual anti-charm) and <em>usually</em> zero wit (again random flashes out of nowhere just make the writing inconsistent imo).</p><p></p><p>6) Just "edgelord vibes" - again, W3 a lot less bad here than W2, I admit.</p><p></p><p>Even W3 really got me off on the wrong foot when I couldn't find any dialogue options that would cause Geralt to<em> not</em> be verbally abusive and frankly a little misogynistic to poor Keira, who like, I didn't know from Eve, why is Geralt being so nasty to her!?</p><p></p><p>You know how people get super-mad when they don't have "mean guy" options (c.f. Veilguard)? I think I'm like that but for "be kind" options that aren't just "Don't actually say an insult" lol.</p><p></p><p>Also, I want to be clear, it was a great, very consistent VA performance, I offer no criticism to Doug Cockle, it was just "not me".</p><p></p><p>I feel a bit like there's like "Geralt would play a Fighter, MHawke would play a Bard", and I definitely would play a Bard.</p><p></p><p>If we TLDR it: I couldn't get into Geralt's headspace at all. I just kept thinking "What is actually wrong with you?!".</p><p></p><p></p><p>They're definitely very different and it's one of the games where I'd say both were really good, like I didn't like Wyatt as much at first but once I'd played a bit into the game I really got her vibe and it worked (especially making horrible choices!).</p><p></p><p>Same for ME from ME2 onwards - in ME1 Hale nails her Shepard immediately but Mark Meer takes until ME2 to totally dial it in and get away from "Zap Brannigan?" territory, but in ME2 and ME3 it's like you're choosing between "Space Opera vibes" and "Military SF vibes" by choosing male or female Shepard - or like Farscape vs. nuBSG!</p><p></p><p>Whereas in Cyberpunk 2077 I would say Cherami Leigh absolutely own and defines V and gives a performance I will never forget, filled with emotion and brilliant use of vocal tension (jesus that woman knows how to subtly sound broken up or shocked - I didn't even know VAs could do it that well!), whereas the male V is like, fine but deeply forgettable?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9729311, member: 18"] Whereas[I] for me[/I] I didn't vibe with Geralt at all (particularly in W2). Like 70% of the things I despise in an PC rolled into one. 1) Looks like a [I]right twat[/I]. Sorry but he does. Tall, brooding and [I]fit as hell[/I] so I get why chicks dig him in a "the absolute hottest 50-ish metal fan you ever saw" way but still. 2) Annoying accent (to be fair, Hawke has the same general accent as me, albeit more stage-y and less transatlantic, so I am biased in favour of that), though I did like his diction. 3) Allegedly "emotionless" character who is in fact extremely emotional, just like, an anti-social, zero empathy way (except when, randomly, for no apparent reason, he's really nice, when in the nearly exact same situation previously he was a huge callous jerk) 4) Character who "sees more clearly than others" but who absolutely just acts like a smug superior wanker who knows better than than everyone else. 5) Low charm (W3 was a lot better here than W2 where he had actual anti-charm) and [I]usually[/I] zero wit (again random flashes out of nowhere just make the writing inconsistent imo). 6) Just "edgelord vibes" - again, W3 a lot less bad here than W2, I admit. Even W3 really got me off on the wrong foot when I couldn't find any dialogue options that would cause Geralt to[I] not[/I] be verbally abusive and frankly a little misogynistic to poor Keira, who like, I didn't know from Eve, why is Geralt being so nasty to her!? You know how people get super-mad when they don't have "mean guy" options (c.f. Veilguard)? I think I'm like that but for "be kind" options that aren't just "Don't actually say an insult" lol. Also, I want to be clear, it was a great, very consistent VA performance, I offer no criticism to Doug Cockle, it was just "not me". I feel a bit like there's like "Geralt would play a Fighter, MHawke would play a Bard", and I definitely would play a Bard. If we TLDR it: I couldn't get into Geralt's headspace at all. I just kept thinking "What is actually wrong with you?!". They're definitely very different and it's one of the games where I'd say both were really good, like I didn't like Wyatt as much at first but once I'd played a bit into the game I really got her vibe and it worked (especially making horrible choices!). Same for ME from ME2 onwards - in ME1 Hale nails her Shepard immediately but Mark Meer takes until ME2 to totally dial it in and get away from "Zap Brannigan?" territory, but in ME2 and ME3 it's like you're choosing between "Space Opera vibes" and "Military SF vibes" by choosing male or female Shepard - or like Farscape vs. nuBSG! Whereas in Cyberpunk 2077 I would say Cherami Leigh absolutely own and defines V and gives a performance I will never forget, filled with emotion and brilliant use of vocal tension (jesus that woman knows how to subtly sound broken up or shocked - I didn't even know VAs could do it that well!), whereas the male V is like, fine but deeply forgettable? [/QUOTE]
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