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<blockquote data-quote="Silverblade The Ench" data-source="post: 4243214" data-attributes="member: 19083"><p>Digital piracy and copyright is a joke, whether business wants to bury it's head in the sand or not.</p><p>You cannot "own" electrons or photons, it's impossible. Thus, you cannot, not EVER control it. Someone will always crack, hack open, edit, file, stamp, index, brief, debrief, or number it!</p><p>"<em>You are Number 6!"</em> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>I'm not advocating piracy, I'm just stating common sense. 19th century property laws cannot work for 21st century digital content.</p><p>I know rat bags can steal my artwork, tough, it's just not worth the hassle of trying to prevent, as all you'll do is waste your time and harass legitimate viewers.</p><p>Like sites who prevent right clicks, oh that's lame! Easy to bypass and angers legit users who want to copy & paste links...which ruins a prime feature of Web use! It does no good at all.</p><p></p><p>Appealling to users to behave responsibly, in return for being honest/friendly with them is your best hope (and legal work for excessive scumbags)</p><p></p><p>So, yes, selling pdfs cheaply IS the best way to tackle this problem, unlike the RIAA idiots who've angered their own consumers and are going down with a sinking ship, madly knocking yet more holes in it's hull :/ Record industry shows how NOT to do it, took them far too long to jump <em>back over </em> their own shark <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Me, I'd much rather buy a legit copy of old stuff I like from Ebay, than get a pdf, because the old stuff is what's usually offered on pdf at reasonable prices, and I LOVE the feel and handling the objects with the gorgeous old artwork. Compare the very 1st Realms boxed set, wow, beautiful work, to the trashy 3rd?? boxed set, the last 2nd edition one, ugh! That last boxed set felt cheap in design.</p><p></p><p>PDfs are best served for rules (crunch), you <em>currenlty </em> use, where as I adore old stuff for fluff, and fluff requires reading and absorption which is best done by...printed page.</p><p></p><p>PDFs are great for being put onto a laptop for fast, <em>light weight</em> refeernce at game table or when writing an adventure, or DM encounter table work. I hate carrying heavy books, cna't do it no more.</p><p></p><p>But WOTC don't offer current stuff on pdfs, <em>cheap</em>!!, so only digital product I use is E-tools, which I bought cause making NPCs in 3.5 ed is a nightmare for this poor old DM. Currently digital D&D is pointless to me in terms of the 3.5 stuff: I cannot buy 3.5 ed pdfs for no more than half the price of books, so I refuse to buy it, and I dont use pirate stuff (for a lot of reasons).</p><p></p><p>-And why no pdfs on sale for 3.5 ed? (just checked, thought there were going to sell 'em ages ago? *does a double take*) If it's to "stop piracy", uh...that boat left the harbour!! jsut searching for pdfs showed gazillions of torrents, but no legit shops selling them...that's capitulation and allows piracy free reign. WOTC doesn't benefit at all.</p><p>Instead of a "bunker mentality" that will get you jsu tnowhere on such issues, much better to out do the pirates! or at least make some profit form something you cannot stop, short of setting off a EMP nuke and wiping half of Russia/Asias pirates, lol.</p><p></p><p>I'm happy to support D&D by buying its products, but not when are expected to pay same price as a book, a soild object, or cannot get stuff you want.</p><p></p><p>Companies need to learn that customers will support them, if they are treated with respect, and not expected to pay the same price for digital info, that's dirt cheap to distribute, versus heavy physical objects.</p><p>Setting up a web store is not cheap, but hey, the profits vs cost are a LOT better than normal book distribution. Books are mopre fun, pdfs are not much fun and are more for utility.</p><p>a PHB is a <em>work of art</em>, a pdf is a...tool.</p><p></p><p>Personally I think the DDI subscription should have a $5/month extra feature if you want it: free use of ALL current D&D pdfs. Think how many folk would sign up for that...I would <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Silverblade The Ench, post: 4243214, member: 19083"] Digital piracy and copyright is a joke, whether business wants to bury it's head in the sand or not. You cannot "own" electrons or photons, it's impossible. Thus, you cannot, not EVER control it. Someone will always crack, hack open, edit, file, stamp, index, brief, debrief, or number it! "[I]You are Number 6!"[/I] ;) I'm not advocating piracy, I'm just stating common sense. 19th century property laws cannot work for 21st century digital content. I know rat bags can steal my artwork, tough, it's just not worth the hassle of trying to prevent, as all you'll do is waste your time and harass legitimate viewers. Like sites who prevent right clicks, oh that's lame! Easy to bypass and angers legit users who want to copy & paste links...which ruins a prime feature of Web use! It does no good at all. Appealling to users to behave responsibly, in return for being honest/friendly with them is your best hope (and legal work for excessive scumbags) So, yes, selling pdfs cheaply IS the best way to tackle this problem, unlike the RIAA idiots who've angered their own consumers and are going down with a sinking ship, madly knocking yet more holes in it's hull :/ Record industry shows how NOT to do it, took them far too long to jump [I]back over [/I] their own shark :p Me, I'd much rather buy a legit copy of old stuff I like from Ebay, than get a pdf, because the old stuff is what's usually offered on pdf at reasonable prices, and I LOVE the feel and handling the objects with the gorgeous old artwork. Compare the very 1st Realms boxed set, wow, beautiful work, to the trashy 3rd?? boxed set, the last 2nd edition one, ugh! That last boxed set felt cheap in design. PDfs are best served for rules (crunch), you [I]currenlty [/I] use, where as I adore old stuff for fluff, and fluff requires reading and absorption which is best done by...printed page. PDFs are great for being put onto a laptop for fast, [I]light weight[/I] refeernce at game table or when writing an adventure, or DM encounter table work. I hate carrying heavy books, cna't do it no more. But WOTC don't offer current stuff on pdfs, [I]cheap[/I]!!, so only digital product I use is E-tools, which I bought cause making NPCs in 3.5 ed is a nightmare for this poor old DM. Currently digital D&D is pointless to me in terms of the 3.5 stuff: I cannot buy 3.5 ed pdfs for no more than half the price of books, so I refuse to buy it, and I dont use pirate stuff (for a lot of reasons). -And why no pdfs on sale for 3.5 ed? (just checked, thought there were going to sell 'em ages ago? *does a double take*) If it's to "stop piracy", uh...that boat left the harbour!! jsut searching for pdfs showed gazillions of torrents, but no legit shops selling them...that's capitulation and allows piracy free reign. WOTC doesn't benefit at all. Instead of a "bunker mentality" that will get you jsu tnowhere on such issues, much better to out do the pirates! or at least make some profit form something you cannot stop, short of setting off a EMP nuke and wiping half of Russia/Asias pirates, lol. I'm happy to support D&D by buying its products, but not when are expected to pay same price as a book, a soild object, or cannot get stuff you want. Companies need to learn that customers will support them, if they are treated with respect, and not expected to pay the same price for digital info, that's dirt cheap to distribute, versus heavy physical objects. Setting up a web store is not cheap, but hey, the profits vs cost are a LOT better than normal book distribution. Books are mopre fun, pdfs are not much fun and are more for utility. a PHB is a [I]work of art[/I], a pdf is a...tool. Personally I think the DDI subscription should have a $5/month extra feature if you want it: free use of ALL current D&D pdfs. Think how many folk would sign up for that...I would :) [/QUOTE]
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