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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nemesis Destiny" data-source="post: 6872018" data-attributes="member: 98255">There is still the compendium, and the character builder, and the monster builder, etc. The "tools."Say, for example, you tried 5e and didn't like it, but you gave 4e a go and really decided to get into it... too bad. No online tools for you. You can still go and download all the back-issues of the magazine though. Good luck making use of most of the content though without the character builder and monster tool. If you still can get compendium access as a new sub, I guess it's not too bad, but I'm not sure if that's included, and I don't want to pony up on a new account just to find out.So, it's an obvious move to "phase out" the tools, and thus people playing 4e. Once subscribership drops past a critical point, and there are so few reasons to be a new sub, they will quietly drop support for the online tools and happily welcome you to drink the 5e kool aid.I bet that most people will just happily go along and it won't cost them much new business to do so, since most people retroactively getting into 4e will just buy used books (which are cheap anyways), and anyone else who cares can just as easily pirate the PDFs (including the ones WotC themselves leaked online leading up to 4e's launch), and use the Loader-that-shall-not-be-named for the old offline builder. I've heard there's even a way to get the Compendium running on a local machine, and it's certainly the route I'll be going if they phase that out as well.The old saying about WotC ninjas not being able to break into your house to steal your old edition books was always a laugh, but amusingly, with 4e, it might as well be true, what with all the hyperbole about the game being unplayable without the digital tools. Nonsense, to be sure, and more a statement on just how useful the tools are, even though they did a botch job of it.</blockquote>

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