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Message: <blockquote data-quote="simon_mas" data-source="post: 518723" data-attributes="member: 9050">harsh and bitter. and long. very long.I agree with ZansForCans and with those that they have said that the printing new book is not what makes unhappy so many people.the books are unbalanced? well, it's not really their fault, since anybody can make a mistake.where are the errata? do i have to dig some hundred pages of SRD in order to spot those changes? if the system is flawed and they know what's wrong, can't they just post an errata NOW? or state exactly which areas will be updated?there are two things that really drives me crazy.1) they exploited their fans. some of the threads in the wotc boards really had some points. that conjurer guy has made clear to anybody that the system they used for pricing the magical items is broken. and that's just an example. there are dozens of new rangers, monks, haste spells, and so on.one week ago, these people were just whiners. officially, the system was perfect. if you didn't like a part of it, it's your business.now, all of the sudden, the system is broken. not completely to justify a 4th edition, mind you. just enough to reprint books incorporating those changes, and some more (which remains unknown to this date), probably those very house rules that were suggested on their boards.will these people get credited? i don't really think so. these fans not even get a thank you. a "you know, you were damn right. we are the fools. sorry about that.". they are given 3 new manuals, $30 each (if you live in the u.s.a. probably $40 or more elsewhere). no errata. just the SRD that they would have updated anyway. wow!2) when they give official information about the changes, they seem to do it as if they were doing us a personal favour.if they're not sure about what is going to change, why don't they openly ask us?if they already know, why are they keeping the secret?  because they want to keep us wonder? because a third party could steal the idea and print a "fix the d20 system" book? because they like fame wars and enjoy seeing more?I'm bitter here, i realise, but it's incredible that they can't give us the complete information at this stage. this is only going to hurt them. in my humble opinion, they are really only trying to make more money out of the core books.if not, they would have printed a d20 update book ALONG with the new core books (that are really useful for new fans, but not for old ones). they would have make clear that an errata will be available. they would have hired better editors for the original books. they would have listened to those that whined because not every monster in the MM had a figure.if you think that i'm asking for the moon, i'm not. i decided to switch to GURPS. go checking the steve jackson website.errata are up to date. they even have a page with the latest additions, so that you don't have to read the whole stuff again if they just added a line or two.they have revised the core book. the additional material can be found on the site in one document. it's a free download.when they switched form the 2nd edition to the 3rd one, they made a "GURPS update" book available, because: "while we hoped that everybody would want to buy the new edition, we couldn't very well demand it". ("we" is steve jackson games). the book contained all the new stuff and cost just 6 dollars, then.please, don't answer my post saying that if i'm not happy with WotC i should change game system, or simply not buying the book. i'm not stupid (i don't think any of you is!), and i know what to do with my money without your advice.i just say: don't accept change for the worse without doing nothing. if you're happy with wizards and their products, well, i'm happy for you. if you think that things are going don't in the toilet, don't just say: "well, it's the way anything is. yesterday's world was better".this is exactly the attitude that makes anything go worse.thank you for your attention. happy gaming. happy flaming (i assume there will be some... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> ).simon.</blockquote>

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