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<blockquote data-quote="simon_mas" data-source="post: 521397" data-attributes="member: 9050"><p><strong>Re: What more can WotC do?</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think I made a fairly detailed wishlist. go back and re-read the post. you might have skip it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>yes, for some products. not for all. for most products they just have FAQs.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's their business. It's a marketing move, if you didn't realise it. the immense popularity of the d20 system comes from that move, too.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, that's their call. I guess it just depends on what you call product support.</p><p>I don't care for free bits, but I do demand clarity and game balance. If you prefer to use your own house rules and prefer to have free maps or adventures that's ok with me. It's your game.</p><p>But I'm certainly more likely to find these free bits over the internet as well. I can't say the same for quality editor and game designer (both of which WotC has, or had.).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think you've got catch 55.</p><p>"if people ask nicely, they might listen". I'm tired to have the minimum and be thankful for that. They are updating the SRD, alright, but they would have done the same even with minor correction and no game change.</p><p>Again, I guess it all boils down to what you ask from a product you buy. I demand the best. In this moment, I think my money if far better spent somewhere else, in term of game designing and game support. (and I'm not talking about free maps and adventures.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, that alone would be worth complaining. Doesn't it strike you as peculiar that they take the time to correct their mistake and don't care about the readability of those documents?</p><p>For me, that's a sign that they don't care about what they're doing. For me, if I'm paid to do something, and I like my job, I try to do it in the best possible way, because my customer (some of them, at least) would demand it. And because, quite frankly, I want them to be happy and appreciate the difference.</p><p>They are not doing this. At least, I don't think they are. That's why I'm so bitter at them.</p><p>You think they are giving you the best you could have for that money? Nobody tried to convince you that you are mistaken or foolhardy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sorry, it's my mistake there. I was referring to the fact that a big portion of people seem to think that the binding now is crappier than it use to be because "in the old time, things used to be better".</p><p>Personally, I think that the d20 system is a good system, with some flaws, and that the revision is a good idea. I also think that that system is not more universal than the Storytelling system from White wolf, or any previous edition of AD&D and D&D game. And that the revision project is not being carried out professionally. I'm NOT referring to game designers. But to the people who should inform us on the changes that are going to take place (I'm not sure of what they are called), that are going to make errata and rule updates available, and so on.</p><p></p><p>You say that the changes will be discussed. I still don't see any official thread on this. All I see is the usual die-hard fans that are discussing, hoping, flaming themselves, defending their opinion. I don't see an official voice. Maybe I'm blind, or just too early.</p><p>I guess I won't wait to see which one applies.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />,</p><p>simon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="simon_mas, post: 521397, member: 9050"] [b]Re: What more can WotC do?[/b] I think I made a fairly detailed wishlist. go back and re-read the post. you might have skip it. yes, for some products. not for all. for most products they just have FAQs. That's their business. It's a marketing move, if you didn't realise it. the immense popularity of the d20 system comes from that move, too. Again, that's their call. I guess it just depends on what you call product support. I don't care for free bits, but I do demand clarity and game balance. If you prefer to use your own house rules and prefer to have free maps or adventures that's ok with me. It's your game. But I'm certainly more likely to find these free bits over the internet as well. I can't say the same for quality editor and game designer (both of which WotC has, or had.). I think you've got catch 55. "if people ask nicely, they might listen". I'm tired to have the minimum and be thankful for that. They are updating the SRD, alright, but they would have done the same even with minor correction and no game change. Again, I guess it all boils down to what you ask from a product you buy. I demand the best. In this moment, I think my money if far better spent somewhere else, in term of game designing and game support. (and I'm not talking about free maps and adventures.) Well, that alone would be worth complaining. Doesn't it strike you as peculiar that they take the time to correct their mistake and don't care about the readability of those documents? For me, that's a sign that they don't care about what they're doing. For me, if I'm paid to do something, and I like my job, I try to do it in the best possible way, because my customer (some of them, at least) would demand it. And because, quite frankly, I want them to be happy and appreciate the difference. They are not doing this. At least, I don't think they are. That's why I'm so bitter at them. You think they are giving you the best you could have for that money? Nobody tried to convince you that you are mistaken or foolhardy. Sorry, it's my mistake there. I was referring to the fact that a big portion of people seem to think that the binding now is crappier than it use to be because "in the old time, things used to be better". Personally, I think that the d20 system is a good system, with some flaws, and that the revision is a good idea. I also think that that system is not more universal than the Storytelling system from White wolf, or any previous edition of AD&D and D&D game. And that the revision project is not being carried out professionally. I'm NOT referring to game designers. But to the people who should inform us on the changes that are going to take place (I'm not sure of what they are called), that are going to make errata and rule updates available, and so on. You say that the changes will be discussed. I still don't see any official thread on this. All I see is the usual die-hard fans that are discussing, hoping, flaming themselves, defending their opinion. I don't see an official voice. Maybe I'm blind, or just too early. I guess I won't wait to see which one applies. :), simon. [/QUOTE]
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