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<blockquote data-quote="buzz" data-source="post: 524726" data-attributes="member: 6777"><p><strong>I'm with WizardDru</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, my beef isn't with SJG. My beef is that I think your expectations <em>are</em> unrealistic.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, then this is a double-standard. It <em>isn't</em> natural for errata to always be corrected in second printings, and prompt offering of errata on company Web sites, while <em>ideal</em>, is still not quite commonplace. What you're saying is, "Ignoring all companies except SJG and WotC, WotC is terrible at providing errata." It's completely out of context.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm just imagining that, if I were a WotC employee, and I read your post about what a lousy job they do, when I probably work my ass off for a mediocre salary providing quality games to people who do nothing but whine in response, I'd probably be miffed.</p><p></p><p>I also don't understand your beef about errata: Wizards provides downloadable errata for Oriental Adventures, Monster Manual, Magic of Faerun, Chainmail Starter Set, Sword and Fist, Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, Dungeon Master's Guide, Psionics Handbook, and the Player's Handbook. That covers the core books and then some, and I think that this list is even incomplete (grabbed off their Web site). No one is forcing you to read the FAQ.</p><p></p><p>And why is WotC having a FAQ bad, but SJG having a FAQ (which they do) good?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are certainly welcome to make your feelings known. But...</p><p></p><p>Do you whine about the GURPS FAQ (and how it hadn't been updated since Feb 2000 until just recently, or that it only addresses maybe 5-6 out of the 150 books available?)</p><p></p><p>Or how about how SJG has been teasing people with the possibility of GURPS 4th ed (which it desperately needs) for years now? I give WotC points for addressing player's concerns so soon, as opposed to staunchly refusing to change anything because it might mess up their system of cross-referencing. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which WotC generally provide. Eratta exists for most major books, and the revisions will be in SRD (for free!) on the day they're released. I'd prefer that to having to <em>purchase</em> a book of revisions.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, they should post a list of changes that may not represent what's in the final product seven months in advance, thereby creating even more FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) than the mere announcement of the new books has already caused (at least among the doom-and-gloom crowd)?</p><p></p><p>You're being impatient, and you need to realize this. Not to mention, they <em>have</em> basically stated what the general nature of the changes will be. Specifics can wait until the product actually gets released.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Uh, the D&D design team? Bill Slavisek and them? Read their Web page.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Comprehensive errata exists for the core books. "Officially unbalanced" is a matter of opinion. There's nothing "broken" about D&D3e, and throwing people into a tizzy by releasing revisions piecemeal seven months before the revisions are officially published seems like a bad idea to me.</p><p></p><p>You are more than welcome to switch over the GURPS. However, your liking GURPS doesn't indicate that WotC is doing a bad job. Neither does your holding them up to unrealistic expectations.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buzz, post: 524726, member: 6777"] [b]I'm with WizardDru[/b] Well, my beef isn't with SJG. My beef is that I think your expectations [i]are[/i] unrealistic. Well, then this is a double-standard. It [i]isn't[/i] natural for errata to always be corrected in second printings, and prompt offering of errata on company Web sites, while [i]ideal[/i], is still not quite commonplace. What you're saying is, "Ignoring all companies except SJG and WotC, WotC is terrible at providing errata." It's completely out of context. I'm just imagining that, if I were a WotC employee, and I read your post about what a lousy job they do, when I probably work my ass off for a mediocre salary providing quality games to people who do nothing but whine in response, I'd probably be miffed. I also don't understand your beef about errata: Wizards provides downloadable errata for Oriental Adventures, Monster Manual, Magic of Faerun, Chainmail Starter Set, Sword and Fist, Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, Dungeon Master's Guide, Psionics Handbook, and the Player's Handbook. That covers the core books and then some, and I think that this list is even incomplete (grabbed off their Web site). No one is forcing you to read the FAQ. And why is WotC having a FAQ bad, but SJG having a FAQ (which they do) good? You are certainly welcome to make your feelings known. But... Do you whine about the GURPS FAQ (and how it hadn't been updated since Feb 2000 until just recently, or that it only addresses maybe 5-6 out of the 150 books available?) Or how about how SJG has been teasing people with the possibility of GURPS 4th ed (which it desperately needs) for years now? I give WotC points for addressing player's concerns so soon, as opposed to staunchly refusing to change anything because it might mess up their system of cross-referencing. :rolleyes: Which WotC generally provide. Eratta exists for most major books, and the revisions will be in SRD (for free!) on the day they're released. I'd prefer that to having to [i]purchase[/i] a book of revisions. So, they should post a list of changes that may not represent what's in the final product seven months in advance, thereby creating even more FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) than the mere announcement of the new books has already caused (at least among the doom-and-gloom crowd)? You're being impatient, and you need to realize this. Not to mention, they [i]have[/i] basically stated what the general nature of the changes will be. Specifics can wait until the product actually gets released. Uh, the D&D design team? Bill Slavisek and them? Read their Web page. Comprehensive errata exists for the core books. "Officially unbalanced" is a matter of opinion. There's nothing "broken" about D&D3e, and throwing people into a tizzy by releasing revisions piecemeal seven months before the revisions are officially published seems like a bad idea to me. You are more than welcome to switch over the GURPS. However, your liking GURPS doesn't indicate that WotC is doing a bad job. Neither does your holding them up to unrealistic expectations. [/QUOTE]
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