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<blockquote data-quote="Geoffrey" data-source="post: 1036107" data-attributes="member: 764">I strongly hope that this set contains rules for character advancement all the way up to level 20. After all, the Moldvay books covered advancement up to level 14 in just 128 pages. If this set can't even achieve what Moldvay did... Well, it's just sad that RPG design can't even equal what was done almost 25 years ago.I agree that there should not be supplemental books, adventures, etc. The boxed set should include a paragraph that says something like, &quot;You want to expand your game? You want more classes, more races, more spells, more magic items, more monsters? In short, more of everything? Combat options, magical schools, etc... Then check out the PH, DMG, and MM.&quot;I can think of one thing that would be cool and would drive the sales of WOTC's prepainted minis:The boxed set is going to include some of the new minis. What would be cool is if, whenever WOTC released minis of monsters not in the boxed set, they included a &quot;monster card&quot; that gave basic stats for the monster. That would maximize the &quot;toy value&quot; of the game. It already has a high toy value, what with minis, battlemat, and dice included in the $20 set. I can imagine all kinds of people buying the boxed game and never buying anything else except for additional miniatures. That wouldn't &quot;split the market&quot; since no special products would be made. A cheap cardboard card (containing monster info) would be included in miniature packs that were going to be produced anyway. That's it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Geoffrey, post: 1036107, member: 764"] I strongly hope that this set contains rules for character advancement all the way up to level 20. After all, the Moldvay books covered advancement up to level 14 in just 128 pages. If this set can't even achieve what Moldvay did... Well, it's just sad that RPG design can't even equal what was done almost 25 years ago. I agree that there should not be supplemental books, adventures, etc. The boxed set should include a paragraph that says something like, "You want to expand your game? You want more classes, more races, more spells, more magic items, more monsters? In short, more of everything? Combat options, magical schools, etc... Then check out the PH, DMG, and MM." I can think of one thing that would be cool and would drive the sales of WOTC's prepainted minis: The boxed set is going to include some of the new minis. What would be cool is if, whenever WOTC released minis of monsters not in the boxed set, they included a "monster card" that gave basic stats for the monster. That would maximize the "toy value" of the game. It already has a high toy value, what with minis, battlemat, and dice included in the $20 set. I can imagine all kinds of people buying the boxed game and never buying anything else except for additional miniatures. That wouldn't "split the market" since no special products would be made. A cheap cardboard card (containing monster info) would be included in miniature packs that were going to be produced anyway. That's it. [/QUOTE]

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