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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5646206" data-attributes="member: 82106">I know I've said this before, but ALL of the things that seem to be underutilized share the same characteristic, they represent a limited supply of cash going out of the character's hands forever. They actually generally ARE worth the price (most rituals certainly). The problem isn't rituals, or alchemy, etc. It is parcels.Every player knows they will get N amount of gold every level. No more, no less. There's no stacking up on consumables and using them cleverly to defeat a bigger challenge and get more treasure. No, you're on a treasure diet from day one. The DM has you on 'gold watchers', and as a consequence players would MUCH rather convert their precious gold to durable items than to consumables that once used are gone forever. If you can tough it out without using them you end up richer and better equipped later on. It is as simple as that.The treasure system, as wonderful a concept as it appears to be when you first come upon it, is the real culprit. In the old days you had no idea what gold you might get, and if you did it was because you carefully figured out where the best treasures were likely to be and went for the big ones. Or you got by on less (but who did that). Alchemy and Potions and such could fix this by just being BETTER than they are to some extent, because what they do is pretty inherently limited anyway. You can't really break the game because you can toss a few Alchemist's Fire. Rituals though are a bit different story. They're just expensive enough that you won't buy/cast them regardless or they're cheap but only moderately useful. I've actually seen a lot of ritual use, a decent amount of use of alchemy, and even some potion brewing. But in terms of treasure I'm not living by any fixed amounts. The players know that. If they want to play dangerous they can get more or play safe and they can get less, and there's always that chance of running into something really good and making any consumables investment decisions you made 3 levels ago basically moot.</blockquote>

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