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<blockquote data-quote="ShinHakkaider" data-source="post: 5769751" data-attributes="member: 9213">Well to be fair they DID kill 3.x, at least support for it. Which at that point was to be expected since they were introducing 4E. It's also the reason that Pathfinder and other OSR games became havens for people who wanted nothing to do with WOTC's new and shiny. I find it incredible and also a little galling that with WOTC is still going to support both 4E and whatever the new edition is though. I understand that the DDI is in place and if they pulled the plug on it for their 4E players there would be absolutely no reason for 5E players to trust them at all.I'm also saying this as someone who's not a huge fan of 4E: I think that this is a mistake. Theyre going to try and do with the fans what they did with thier properties back in 2007-2008: Pull everything back in house. I think the hardcore 4E people are going to resent having their edition end about as much as the hardcore 3.x people did (or maybe not as much because they'll still have support...). The dedicated Pathfinder people dont trust WOTC enough to boil water for tea much less a new system. The OSR fanbase for the most part shuns BOTH of the later systems so anything resembling them gets poo-pooed. the design team and WOTC REALLY has their work cut out for them. I dont envy them at all. Especially with this upcoming playtest. If they experience anything close to the complete douchelike behavior that came out of some of the playtester forums on Paizo? I expect Monte and Mearls to start drinking HARD.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ShinHakkaider, post: 5769751, member: 9213"] Well to be fair they DID kill 3.x, at least support for it. Which at that point was to be expected since they were introducing 4E. It's also the reason that Pathfinder and other OSR games became havens for people who wanted nothing to do with WOTC's new and shiny. I find it incredible and also a little galling that with WOTC is still going to support both 4E and whatever the new edition is though. I understand that the DDI is in place and if they pulled the plug on it for their 4E players there would be absolutely no reason for 5E players to trust them at all. I'm also saying this as someone who's not a huge fan of 4E: I think that this is a mistake. Theyre going to try and do with the fans what they did with thier properties back in 2007-2008: Pull everything back in house. I think the hardcore 4E people are going to resent having their edition end about as much as the hardcore 3.x people did (or maybe not as much because they'll still have support...). The dedicated Pathfinder people dont trust WOTC enough to boil water for tea much less a new system. The OSR fanbase for the most part shuns BOTH of the later systems so anything resembling them gets poo-pooed. the design team and WOTC REALLY has their work cut out for them. I dont envy them at all. Especially with this upcoming playtest. If they experience anything close to the complete douchelike behavior that came out of some of the playtester forums on Paizo? I expect Monte and Mearls to start drinking HARD. [/QUOTE]

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