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<blockquote data-quote="talok55" data-source="post: 5776460" data-attributes="member: 6684559"><p>First of all, I'd have to disagree with you about the implied setting for 4E.&nbsp; It's too vague and too blah.&nbsp; It would have been much better to not destroy the Forgotten Realms and have it be the flagship campaign setting for 4E.&nbsp; I do not see how revamping and relaunching 4E would do them one bit of good.&nbsp; Besides the massive PR errors that WotC has made, the simple fact is that many people do not like the mechanics of 4E or the flavor of it's implied setting and the 4E Forgotten Realms.&nbsp; Anything that does not drastically alter both will not win back any fans that left.&nbsp; Many left because 4E is not D&amp;D to them.&nbsp; They will not for one second consider buying a revamped 4E because it will still have everything they don't like about the game.&nbsp; For WotC to be successful with D&amp;D, they have to bring back a lot of customers that bailed because of 4E.&nbsp; They absolutely cannot do that with a 4.75 (or whatever you call it).&nbsp; What they are doing now is even better than an apology to all the fans they angered with&nbsp; their horrendous 4E &quot;marketing&quot; and &quot;ruining&quot; their favorite game.&nbsp; They are not only saying &quot;We messed up your game, and we're sorry.&quot;&nbsp; They are saying, &quot;We are trying to fix our mistakes by making a game that is D&amp;D to you.&quot;&nbsp; What else can they do that's better than that?</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="talok55, post: 5776460, member: 6684559"] First of all, I'd have to disagree with you about the implied setting for 4E. It's too vague and too blah. It would have been much better to not destroy the Forgotten Realms and have it be the flagship campaign setting for 4E. I do not see how revamping and relaunching 4E would do them one bit of good. Besides the massive PR errors that WotC has made, the simple fact is that many people do not like the mechanics of 4E or the flavor of it's implied setting and the 4E Forgotten Realms. Anything that does not drastically alter both will not win back any fans that left. Many left because 4E is not D&D to them. They will not for one second consider buying a revamped 4E because it will still have everything they don't like about the game. For WotC to be successful with D&D, they have to bring back a lot of customers that bailed because of 4E. They absolutely cannot do that with a 4.75 (or whatever you call it). What they are doing now is even better than an apology to all the fans they angered with their horrendous 4E "marketing" and "ruining" their favorite game. They are not only saying "We messed up your game, and we're sorry." They are saying, "We are trying to fix our mistakes by making a game that is D&D to you." What else can they do that's better than that? [/QUOTE]

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