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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9802540" data-attributes="member: 23751">That's a pretty common mistake you are making there. That automatic loss of con pertains to the spells made permanent in the spell description, not all castings of permanency.  The spell does not talk about magic item creation."The magic-user casts the desired spell and then follows with the permanency spell. Each permanency spell lowers the magic-user's constitution by 1 point. The magic-user cannot cast these spells upon other creatures. In addition to personal use, the permanency spell can be used to make the following object/creature or area effect spells lasting:"Making magic items does not involve making spells cast on yourself or others permanent.  Under Enchant an Item it says that there is a risk of con loss if Permanency is used.  Con loss isn't guaranteed the way it is with spells cast under the Permanency spell itself. And of course, you can always use Wish to get the con points back if you're high enough to be enchanting items.From Enchant an Item"No magic placed on or into an item is permanent unless a permanency spell is used as a finishing touch, and this always runs a risk of draining a point of constitution from the magic-user casting the spell."Interestingly, I can't recall ever seeing the odds of losing or not losing that con point printed anywhere.As I said, I really don't know what the rules were. However, the existence of Glantri means that NPCs can and do make lots of magic items and cast lots of spells.They are relevant, because it shows that D&D continues to feature magic item creation in numbers sufficient to generate a setting such as Eberron.3e only assumes the same rules to an extent.  Magic Item creation in 3e cost XP. NPCs have it in infinite supply since the DM isn't running millions of NPCs through adventures to gain that XP.  PCs will make fewer items as a result, and magic items will have been being made for thousands of years, generating a TON of magic items out there.</blockquote>

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