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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 9815451" data-attributes="member: 22779">So, it's your contention that there were dwarven arch mages and elven high priests in the setting, but, they were just never mentioned because of reasons that have nothing to do with the edition for which the material was written?&nbsp; Is that about right?&nbsp; They were always there.&nbsp; Just &quot;off screen&quot; as it were.&nbsp; Always part of the setting, but, having zero impact on events.And it's entirely coincidental that they start getting mentioned and talked about as soon as they are allowed by the rules.&nbsp; Again, has nothing to do with the mechanics of the game.&nbsp; It's still 100% system agnostic.That's certainly an interpretation I suppose.Although, I would repeat my earlier question:Why are dragons color coded in EVERY D&amp;D setting?&nbsp; Why are dwarves exactly the same in Greyhawk and Forgotten Realms?&nbsp; Why are elves identical?&nbsp; Right down to having the same deity.&nbsp; Totally coincidental I suppose.&nbsp; Again, totally system agnostic.&nbsp; Complete coincidence.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 9815451, member: 22779"] So, it's your contention that there were dwarven arch mages and elven high priests in the setting, but, they were just never mentioned because of reasons that have nothing to do with the edition for which the material was written? Is that about right? They were always there. Just "off screen" as it were. Always part of the setting, but, having zero impact on events. And it's entirely coincidental that they start getting mentioned and talked about as soon as they are allowed by the rules. Again, has nothing to do with the mechanics of the game. It's still 100% system agnostic. That's certainly an interpretation I suppose. Although, I would repeat my earlier question: Why are dragons color coded in EVERY D&D setting? Why are dwarves exactly the same in Greyhawk and Forgotten Realms? Why are elves identical? Right down to having the same deity. Totally coincidental I suppose. Again, totally system agnostic. Complete coincidence. [/QUOTE]

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