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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 160487" data-attributes="member: 707">I hadn't thought of any of these ideas.&nbsp; The fact that a druid gets this spell and doesn't get the polymorph line slipped by me, arcanist-focused as I am. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />&nbsp;&nbsp; But the idea that the spells might stack is an interesting one.&nbsp; I hadn't thought of the spell as an enhancement to polymorph but only as an alternative.Funny you should mention size, as my PC was recently stuck in 2 1/2 wide corridors that wouldn't allow a large shape.&nbsp; Had to polymorph into a halfling with base stats.&nbsp; Ouch!I don't really think so.&nbsp; They give a wizard some neat options, but even as a troll, the wizard isn't going to be the equal of a fighter, and still stuck with dangerously low hp.&nbsp; Polymorph Self fills a niche and works at the level it's at, but to create another spell to fill the same niche (as I'd thought when looking at Bite of the Werewolf,) with lesser abilities struck me as pointless.&nbsp; Still, looking at Aahz's points, I'm not sure they were meant to fill the same niche anymore. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 160487, member: 707"] I hadn't thought of any of these ideas. The fact that a druid gets this spell and doesn't get the [i]polymorph[/i] line slipped by me, arcanist-focused as I am. :D But the idea that the spells might stack is an interesting one. I hadn't thought of the spell as an enhancement to [i]polymorph[/i] but only as an alternative. Funny you should mention size, as my PC was recently stuck in 2 1/2 wide corridors that wouldn't allow a large shape. Had to [i]polymorph[/i] into a halfling with base stats. Ouch! I don't really think so. They give a wizard some neat options, but even as a troll, the wizard isn't going to be the equal of a fighter, and still stuck with dangerously low hp. [i]Polymorph Self[/i] fills a niche and works at the level it's at, but to create another spell to fill the [i]same[/i] niche (as I'd thought when looking at [i]Bite of the Werewolf[/i],) with lesser abilities struck me as pointless. Still, looking at Aahz's points, I'm not sure they were meant to fill the same niche anymore. :) [/QUOTE]

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