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WOTC still can't get the backgrounds right in the new FR book.
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<blockquote data-quote="Kinematics" data-source="post: 9791913" data-attributes="member: 6932123"><p>The thing on the Sailor background (wrt monk) is that, on its own, the Sailor background exactly fits what you'd expect a sailor background to be like. The need to move around on a ship, to keep an eye out for things on the horizon, and getting into bar fights when on shore leave, are basically a perfect match for a stereotypical sailor concept.</p><p></p><p>So it's not the Sailor background itself that's the problem. The problem is that it's the best match for the types of things you'd want on a monk, out of the background options provided. But even that is only getting tied down to the idea that the backgrounds are fixed concepts.</p><p></p><p>While there were concerns about the PHB not providing the explicit ability to create custom backgrounds (and there's a fun thread on <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/homebrew-backgrounds.707403/" target="_blank">Homebrew Backgrounds</a> that has dozens of creative ideas for different combos, if your game allows it), it does have one notable paragraph:</p><p></p><p>You can take the "Sailor" background and instead make it Circus Performer, or Drunken Acolyte, or Unruly Guard, without any issue. The label and description of the background-as-mechanic do not confine you to just that singular concept.</p><p></p><p>So the problem is people getting trapped in the mindset that if they want that combination of mechanics, they <em>must</em> be an actual literal sailor.</p><p></p><p>Though I agree that that's different from the mechanics of a background being in conflict with itself (such as basing the feat on Wisdom, but not granting Wisdom in the stat boosts of the corresponding background). Based on the descriptions provided thus far, I'd expect both the background and the feat for the Dragon Cult to be associated with Charisma.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kinematics, post: 9791913, member: 6932123"] The thing on the Sailor background (wrt monk) is that, on its own, the Sailor background exactly fits what you'd expect a sailor background to be like. The need to move around on a ship, to keep an eye out for things on the horizon, and getting into bar fights when on shore leave, are basically a perfect match for a stereotypical sailor concept. So it's not the Sailor background itself that's the problem. The problem is that it's the best match for the types of things you'd want on a monk, out of the background options provided. But even that is only getting tied down to the idea that the backgrounds are fixed concepts. While there were concerns about the PHB not providing the explicit ability to create custom backgrounds (and there's a fun thread on [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/homebrew-backgrounds.707403/']Homebrew Backgrounds[/URL] that has dozens of creative ideas for different combos, if your game allows it), it does have one notable paragraph: You can take the "Sailor" background and instead make it Circus Performer, or Drunken Acolyte, or Unruly Guard, without any issue. The label and description of the background-as-mechanic do not confine you to just that singular concept. So the problem is people getting trapped in the mindset that if they want that combination of mechanics, they [i]must[/i] be an actual literal sailor. Though I agree that that's different from the mechanics of a background being in conflict with itself (such as basing the feat on Wisdom, but not granting Wisdom in the stat boosts of the corresponding background). Based on the descriptions provided thus far, I'd expect both the background and the feat for the Dragon Cult to be associated with Charisma. [/QUOTE]
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