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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9797645" data-attributes="member: 7030563">You are not answering me, why do they need to be there at all?I also don't think it is a minority that want them open.  This was the same exact thing we heard about racial bonuses and the majority certainly wanted to be free from those limits.No they don't!As I noted earlier there is nothing thematic about Constitution for a Sage or Strength for an Artisan and I will keep going ... no sense in Constitution for a Charleton, or Constitution for a Criminal, or Intelligence for a Criminal, or Strength for an Entertainer or Intelligence for a Guard or Charisma for a Hermit, or Constitution for a Merchant or Wisdom for a WayfarerDexterity for a guard makes MORE thematic sense then these do.  You actually have this backwards MOST backgrounds are not thematically connected to all the ASIs they offer.  IF we were going to actually do thematics, those abilities mentioned above would be replaced with other abilities and that is over half the backgrounds in the PHB.No it is not.  You claim they are not significant, yet you also want to prevent people from taking them.Why do you want to stop people from taking an ASI where they want to put an ASI, especially when it makes more sense thematically than the RAW version?But players who are NOT min maxers and want to use other statistics that DO make sense are not a minority.Min Maxers already have RAW ways of getting any ASIs or Origin Feats they want.  All they need to do is pick a 2014 background and they get any ASIs and any feat they want.  The current rules dexplicitly allow for this.  The DM has to houserule to not allow this.The ONLY people this hurts is the people who care about story.Exactly! So let them play the background they want with the ASIs they want.Well funny then that a Guard does not get to take a bonus to Constitution but does get to take an Intelligence bonus.  Why is that when Intelligence does not make sense?Thank you for making my point.When there is almost no mechanical difference shouldn't it be the player making these kind of story-focused decisions about their character?</blockquote>

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