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WOTC still can't get the backgrounds right in the new FR book.
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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9798293" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>It is not blatantly false. The WOTC backgrounds afford non-thematic options, something you say should not happen.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why not? If all the abilities were on the table you could still put your ASIs in the two that are appropriate. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>IF you don't think the backgrounds are flawed why do they need to be </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No my position is criminal geniuses are less of a criminal archetype than dexteritous Guards are.</p><p></p><p>"Criminal genius" is a fringe example that you are using solely to justify Intelleligence being there.</p><p></p><p>And I am still waiting on your answer to why Constitution makes sense for a Criminal.</p><p></p><p>Strength belongs there, you know it and you are dodging.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A far, far larger portion of criminals than "criminal geniuses". I have never met a criminal genius IRL, I have met plenty of thugs, then add in rapists, car jackers, murders. </p><p></p><p>Strength makes far more sense than Intelligence (or Constitution) for a "criminal"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Many do yes. Charisma also makes more sense than Constitution or Intelligence.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have seen plenty of guards that are dexteritous and very proficient with firearms (Dexterity). I have never met a "criminal mastermind" or a sculptor and I am not convinced a sculptor needs to be strong anyway.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you are arguing that WOTC does good backgrounds, which is what this thread is about (read the title) then it absolutely does have to do with WOTC.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What are you talking about "government backup". Guards are not typically part of the government. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They can be, as Soldiers can be. But that is not all inclusive of what a guard is and it is not what most guards are.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A bodyguard is a Guard. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>EXCEPT HE DOESN'T HAVE CONSTITUTION!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No it didn't. If you live in most states in the U.S. people are carrying guns around you all the time and you don't even know it most of the time. What intimidated you was his presentation of the Firearm, how he dressed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Intimidating you with it absolutely is Charisma.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And a lot of people don't,</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ok so you will be changing the Backgrounds that WOTC does a good job at building. Why do you need to change them if WOTC already built them right?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Most of them already allow "thematically incorrect" abilities. Nothing changes.</p><p></p><p>If your argument is characters should not have "thematically incorrect" ability bonuses then what does it matter if it is 1, 2 or 3? How is the game fundamentally different?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I would rather players decide how to build their characters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9798293, member: 7030563"] It is not blatantly false. The WOTC backgrounds afford non-thematic options, something you say should not happen. Why not? If all the abilities were on the table you could still put your ASIs in the two that are appropriate. IF you don't think the backgrounds are flawed why do they need to be No my position is criminal geniuses are less of a criminal archetype than dexteritous Guards are. "Criminal genius" is a fringe example that you are using solely to justify Intelleligence being there. And I am still waiting on your answer to why Constitution makes sense for a Criminal. Strength belongs there, you know it and you are dodging. A far, far larger portion of criminals than "criminal geniuses". I have never met a criminal genius IRL, I have met plenty of thugs, then add in rapists, car jackers, murders. Strength makes far more sense than Intelligence (or Constitution) for a "criminal" Many do yes. Charisma also makes more sense than Constitution or Intelligence. I have seen plenty of guards that are dexteritous and very proficient with firearms (Dexterity). I have never met a "criminal mastermind" or a sculptor and I am not convinced a sculptor needs to be strong anyway. If you are arguing that WOTC does good backgrounds, which is what this thread is about (read the title) then it absolutely does have to do with WOTC. What are you talking about "government backup". Guards are not typically part of the government. They can be, as Soldiers can be. But that is not all inclusive of what a guard is and it is not what most guards are. A bodyguard is a Guard. EXCEPT HE DOESN'T HAVE CONSTITUTION! No it didn't. If you live in most states in the U.S. people are carrying guns around you all the time and you don't even know it most of the time. What intimidated you was his presentation of the Firearm, how he dressed. Intimidating you with it absolutely is Charisma. And a lot of people don't, Ok so you will be changing the Backgrounds that WOTC does a good job at building. Why do you need to change them if WOTC already built them right? Most of them already allow "thematically incorrect" abilities. Nothing changes. If your argument is characters should not have "thematically incorrect" ability bonuses then what does it matter if it is 1, 2 or 3? How is the game fundamentally different? I would rather players decide how to build their characters. [/QUOTE]
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