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<blockquote data-quote="Scott Christian" data-source="post: 9798310" data-attributes="member: 6901101"><p>You do not understand the math behind a +1. You do not understand the math behind the game. And how could you? You still believe its static. There are a million what ifs in each and every encounter:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What if the bard gave one fighter a bardic inspiration?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What if one fighter had more movement and got into flanking two more times than the other fighter?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What if that cultist fanatic casts hold person on one of the fighters?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What if one of the fighters was tanking a baddie that had resistant to melee, yet the other fighter was fighting a creature that didn't?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What if the opponent had a really high AC, yet a weakness to wisdom saves?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What if the creature was flying, and the ranger stepped up and did 90% of the damage?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What if the opponents targeted the first fighter and dropped him because he was in front when the encounter happened?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What if the fighter tripped the trap and was poisoned?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What if most of the attackers started at 120' away, which means the barbarian gets there first and gets an extra attack?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What if Jon is rolling hot, and Jon #2 isn't?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What if fighter #1 gets Tenser's Transformation or Haste cast on them, but fighter #2 doesn't?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What if, what if, what if?</li> </ul><p></p><p>Do your other party members actually make sure to help each of these players equally, so as one doesn't want to quit their character and build a new one? Does your DM make sure they are always fighting the exact same creature during a session? (Meaning, they have no free will to make a choice of where they go in combat.)</p><p></p><p>It's bonkers that people actually believe the math that you put out. If you understand the variables, you will understand your math is wrong, and 20% increases are ludicrous to think.</p><p></p><p>I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I can see you are not interested in simply saying "I want an extra +1 at character creation." You want to try and mask it behind this facade of broken numbers, and of course, also not mention how fighters get an extra ability score increase at 6th level, which I guess makes everyone want to play a fighter, right? Because, you know, they are able to have an extra +1 over every other class?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scott Christian, post: 9798310, member: 6901101"] You do not understand the math behind a +1. You do not understand the math behind the game. And how could you? You still believe its static. There are a million what ifs in each and every encounter: [LIST] [*]What if the bard gave one fighter a bardic inspiration? [*]What if one fighter had more movement and got into flanking two more times than the other fighter? [*]What if that cultist fanatic casts hold person on one of the fighters? [*]What if one of the fighters was tanking a baddie that had resistant to melee, yet the other fighter was fighting a creature that didn't? [*]What if the opponent had a really high AC, yet a weakness to wisdom saves? [*]What if the creature was flying, and the ranger stepped up and did 90% of the damage? [*]What if the opponents targeted the first fighter and dropped him because he was in front when the encounter happened? [*]What if the fighter tripped the trap and was poisoned? [*]What if most of the attackers started at 120' away, which means the barbarian gets there first and gets an extra attack? [*]What if Jon is rolling hot, and Jon #2 isn't? [*]What if fighter #1 gets Tenser's Transformation or Haste cast on them, but fighter #2 doesn't? [*]What if, what if, what if? [/LIST] Do your other party members actually make sure to help each of these players equally, so as one doesn't want to quit their character and build a new one? Does your DM make sure they are always fighting the exact same creature during a session? (Meaning, they have no free will to make a choice of where they go in combat.) It's bonkers that people actually believe the math that you put out. If you understand the variables, you will understand your math is wrong, and 20% increases are ludicrous to think. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I can see you are not interested in simply saying "I want an extra +1 at character creation." You want to try and mask it behind this facade of broken numbers, and of course, also not mention how fighters get an extra ability score increase at 6th level, which I guess makes everyone want to play a fighter, right? Because, you know, they are able to have an extra +1 over every other class? [/QUOTE]
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