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<blockquote data-quote="Grogtard" data-source="post: 4139511" data-attributes="member: 63654"><p>So I've been ghosting here for years now. Finally, this discussion just calls out to me say something.</p><p>First, I'm no expert on business. I'm no expert on law or marketing. I have no idea what WOTC's balance sheet looks like. I'm just guy who likes to play RPG's. </p><p>My peeve with WOTC. First, they said 4th Ed was going to be OGL, then GSL and now the internet fervor has been riles up that it might be closed. Could all this confusion be due to the suit at WOTC (Greg Leeds) , my personal guess. Probably. Think about the timing of that "final vetting". Personally, I wish they would have just come out with and said, "This is the way 4th Edition will be...." on day one back at GenCon.</p><p>My thoughts on the OGL and what it's done for the gaming industry. Let's face it lots. I look at my book shelf and there's the Farscape RPG, Conan D20, OGL Horror, Monte Cook's World of Darkness and Mutants & Masterminds. I don't want to even think about all the third party PDF's I have sitting on my hard drive. Throw in things like Spycraft, Stargate and many more d20 products. All that stuff is next to GURPS, Hero, White Wolf, Unisystem, Runequest, Savage Worlds and few other smaller non-d20 games. And next to that there's all 3.0/3.5 books and d20 Modern. So yes, I dip into lots of different games and systems. I personally feel many of these products wouldn't have made it to my FLGS if it hadn't been for the OGL. Yes, I admit that there was and still is a bunch of third party stuff that is just raging crap. But there are good games and supplements too.</p><p>D&D has always been considered the "gateway" RPG that got most people into the hobby. Having other games with a similar system keeps the new gamers in the hobby and more likely to still be around to buy 5th Edition. In the meantime, they can learn play whatever non-d20 games that strike their fancy. IMHO, I think it's best for WOTC to open up 4th Ed. It may not be what's best for their books in the short term but it just might help long term. And it will help keep the gaming hobby alive.</p><p>Will this influence my design to buy 4th Edition? Yeah, probably. But I admit that it would only be out of spite and will probably cave if it's a good game. (Personally, the jury is still out on that one.)</p><p>I've rambled long enough here. Just keep it civil folks. We're one big community even if we're playing different editions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Grogtard, post: 4139511, member: 63654"] So I've been ghosting here for years now. Finally, this discussion just calls out to me say something. First, I'm no expert on business. I'm no expert on law or marketing. I have no idea what WOTC's balance sheet looks like. I'm just guy who likes to play RPG's. My peeve with WOTC. First, they said 4th Ed was going to be OGL, then GSL and now the internet fervor has been riles up that it might be closed. Could all this confusion be due to the suit at WOTC (Greg Leeds) , my personal guess. Probably. Think about the timing of that "final vetting". Personally, I wish they would have just come out with and said, "This is the way 4th Edition will be...." on day one back at GenCon. My thoughts on the OGL and what it's done for the gaming industry. Let's face it lots. I look at my book shelf and there's the Farscape RPG, Conan D20, OGL Horror, Monte Cook's World of Darkness and Mutants & Masterminds. I don't want to even think about all the third party PDF's I have sitting on my hard drive. Throw in things like Spycraft, Stargate and many more d20 products. All that stuff is next to GURPS, Hero, White Wolf, Unisystem, Runequest, Savage Worlds and few other smaller non-d20 games. And next to that there's all 3.0/3.5 books and d20 Modern. So yes, I dip into lots of different games and systems. I personally feel many of these products wouldn't have made it to my FLGS if it hadn't been for the OGL. Yes, I admit that there was and still is a bunch of third party stuff that is just raging crap. But there are good games and supplements too. D&D has always been considered the "gateway" RPG that got most people into the hobby. Having other games with a similar system keeps the new gamers in the hobby and more likely to still be around to buy 5th Edition. In the meantime, they can learn play whatever non-d20 games that strike their fancy. IMHO, I think it's best for WOTC to open up 4th Ed. It may not be what's best for their books in the short term but it just might help long term. And it will help keep the gaming hobby alive. Will this influence my design to buy 4th Edition? Yeah, probably. But I admit that it would only be out of spite and will probably cave if it's a good game. (Personally, the jury is still out on that one.) I've rambled long enough here. Just keep it civil folks. We're one big community even if we're playing different editions. [/QUOTE]
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