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<blockquote data-quote="Jerik" data-source="post: 8909380" data-attributes="member: 7039785"><p>I'm not sure why you're still asking this, because it was already answered, by both me and Maxperson. Heck, look just <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/wotc-unveils-draft-of-new-open-gaming-license.694653/post-8908282" target="_blank">two posts down from the post you quoted!</a></p><p></p><p>But I'll try to answer again, more concisely and perhaps more clearly than I did yesterday:</p><p></p><p>Even if you could reconstruct the 3E rules without infringing on the license, there is a huge load of <em>content</em> in the earlier SRDs that is not in the SRD 5.0/5.1—monsters, spells, magic items, etc. Let's just look at the monsters as an example. As I said before, the core 3E SRD alone contained about twice as many monsters as the SRD 5.0/5.1. You can see for yourself if you don't believe me: <a href="https://www.d20srd.org/indexes/monsters.htm" target="_blank">here are the monsters from the 3.5 SRD</a>, and <a href="https://5e.d20srd.org/indexes/monsters.htm" target="_blank">here are the monsters from the 5.1</a>. There are <em>lots</em> of monsters that were in the former and not the latter. Just from the As alone, there's the achaierai, allip, aranea, three types of archon, arrowhawk, assassin vine, athach, and avoral. If you can't use the 3.5 SRD anymore, those monsters are now off limits. And then there are lots <em>more</em> monsters that got added later in the Psionic Rules SRD, the Epic Rules SRD, the d20 Modern SRD... there are <em>hundreds of monsters</em> that were in the 3.0/3.5/Modern SRDs that aren't in the 5.0/5.1. And again, that's just the monsters; there are also the spells, magic items, etc.</p><p></p><p>Sure, you don't <em>have</em> to use those monsters. But heck, you don't <em>have</em> to use the monsters from the 5.0 SRD. You don't <em>have</em> to use any WotC content at all; you can just make your own original game. But if you want to use any of those hundreds of monsters (and spells, etc.), <em>which were previously fully available under the OGL 1.0(a)</em>, you can't do it without access to the earlier SRDs.</p><p></p><p>This is not just a hypothetical matter that would never come up in practice. I <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/wotc-unveils-draft-of-new-open-gaming-license.694653/post-8908308" target="_blank">gave an example of a specific project I had planned that I couldn't do without access to the previous SRDs</a>.</p><p></p><p><em>Please</em> stop asking why anyone cares about the 3E SRD. This question has been answered. If you disagree with the answer, then explain why you disagree, but please stop acting like nobody has tried to answer the question.</p><p></p><p>(Of course, if WotC follows through with what it said about adding content from the earlier SRDs to the OGL 1.2 and/or CC license, this matter may become moot anyway...)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jerik, post: 8909380, member: 7039785"] I'm not sure why you're still asking this, because it was already answered, by both me and Maxperson. Heck, look just [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/wotc-unveils-draft-of-new-open-gaming-license.694653/post-8908282']two posts down from the post you quoted![/URL] But I'll try to answer again, more concisely and perhaps more clearly than I did yesterday: Even if you could reconstruct the 3E rules without infringing on the license, there is a huge load of [I]content[/I] in the earlier SRDs that is not in the SRD 5.0/5.1—monsters, spells, magic items, etc. Let's just look at the monsters as an example. As I said before, the core 3E SRD alone contained about twice as many monsters as the SRD 5.0/5.1. You can see for yourself if you don't believe me: [URL='https://www.d20srd.org/indexes/monsters.htm']here are the monsters from the 3.5 SRD[/URL], and [URL='https://5e.d20srd.org/indexes/monsters.htm']here are the monsters from the 5.1[/URL]. There are [I]lots[/I] of monsters that were in the former and not the latter. Just from the As alone, there's the achaierai, allip, aranea, three types of archon, arrowhawk, assassin vine, athach, and avoral. If you can't use the 3.5 SRD anymore, those monsters are now off limits. And then there are lots [I]more[/I] monsters that got added later in the Psionic Rules SRD, the Epic Rules SRD, the d20 Modern SRD... there are [I]hundreds of monsters[/I] that were in the 3.0/3.5/Modern SRDs that aren't in the 5.0/5.1. And again, that's just the monsters; there are also the spells, magic items, etc. Sure, you don't [I]have[/I] to use those monsters. But heck, you don't [I]have[/I] to use the monsters from the 5.0 SRD. You don't [I]have[/I] to use any WotC content at all; you can just make your own original game. But if you want to use any of those hundreds of monsters (and spells, etc.), [I]which were previously fully available under the OGL 1.0(a)[/I], you can't do it without access to the earlier SRDs. This is not just a hypothetical matter that would never come up in practice. I [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/wotc-unveils-draft-of-new-open-gaming-license.694653/post-8908308']gave an example of a specific project I had planned that I couldn't do without access to the previous SRDs[/URL]. [I]Please[/I] stop asking why anyone cares about the 3E SRD. This question has been answered. If you disagree with the answer, then explain why you disagree, but please stop acting like nobody has tried to answer the question. (Of course, if WotC follows through with what it said about adding content from the earlier SRDs to the OGL 1.2 and/or CC license, this matter may become moot anyway...) [/QUOTE]
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