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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 8896822" data-attributes="member: 725">And there are people who like Big Brother, etc. There is no accounting for taste... Just personal preferences! ;-)I have most, 2E, all of 3e and 4e. 4e I actually didn't like, but bought it mostly because it was D&D, I didn't like what they did with most of the settings. So I was really hesitant to get into 5e... I actually liked the 5e system, the little I played of it. I have the PHB, I was thinking of getting the DMG and the MM as well, until this mess happened. I was tempted to buy a couple of books/adventure, but what I read of it and the whole drama's around it, the design directions WotC took, etc. all turned me off of buying any further D&D 5e books. Spelljammer was a good example, I have all the 2E stuff, but when you over correct for political correctness it becomes political blandness. Also the changes on how things work, feel like changes for changes sake, so they could sell you some product again... And when your primary selling point becomes PCness, people will walk away.I actually RPed again last weekend with my group from back in the day (30+ years ago), no D&D, but D&D 5E came up. Even the person that I never expected to complain about PC, complained about the extensive hand-holding and over compensating PC blandness. Our conclusion was that D&D stopped trying to be something where you could learn something from and include who you wanted, and instead tries to tell us who we should include, how we should act, and what the world should be. An example: Is the old ranger class actually a racist class because he blindly hates all Orcs? Are Orc babies per definition evil? What is Good and Evil? A lot of hours were spend during our youth discussing these things. We asked the question "Why?", why is it that way, is it 'right' that way, would we want to see that in our own world/lives? LGBT is not something new, it's been around for a LONG time and even 30-40 years ago it wasn't a problem for us without the makers of D&D telling us how it should be. We figured out what was OK and wasn't OK in particular groups, and we sometimes figured out that a group just wasn't OK for us. We didn't need chapters and chapters of hand-holding in D&D books, we could appreciate an article about it, but certainly not having it plastered everywhere.Now getting back to 'the point' people can like or dislike different versions of D&D for many different reasons. For our group that started with D&D Basic, then 2E, then 3E and 3.5E. 4E was mechanically strong, but it didn't feel like D&D, it felt more like an MMO like WoW. The changes to the settings to facilitate the mechanical changes also weren't received well. 5E we like mechanically, it 'feels' like D&D again (to us), but it's still stuck with the setting choices that were made in 4E. The ever increasing political blandness has made longtime D&D fans give away their entire 5e collections to people who do appreciate it (and can stand it)...</blockquote>

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