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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 8897293" data-attributes="member: 4348">Around Dec 20 (I actually think it hit a lower point on the 22nd, but end of day was higher) was the low point.  It was not a surprise that it was going down at that point either.  The Low was around $10 lower then it is now (give or take a dollar or two).  It has had a steady rise (for stocks that is, it's never a straight line, nor is it an even line when talking on stocks normally) since then.  This includes the past week with the commotion on D&D. Since Dec 20 it has been on a steady rise.  As I said, it is doing decently right now, and if it continues on this track could be good in around a year (maybe even shorter.  It may even start hitting highs around March if one is lucky, just talking from a stock perspective and things that COULD happen around then). What this means is that for those who are only interested in the stock side of things and the business side of things, Hasbro actually is not doing badly at this time.  From that perspective I do not see the incentive to make them change course, nor does it give many any ammunition for them to change course in the board room if only looking at it from that perspective.That does NOT mean there are not sympathetic voices in the mess or that everyone agrees with those making these choices.  D&D Beyond may be a good item to use, but there WILL be voices countering that argument as well, including pointing out to other things going on that are on an upward trend in the company itself.  I don't think the people on these forums or elsewhere are alone in the fight, there are those in the company itself or that have associations which are particularly not happy with some of the course selections that are currently being made.I think there are misunderstandings on both sides of the lines right now.  I think that it's not all peaceful behind the scenes either, but there are those who have the power overall that are pretty strong willed on certain things.I hear people saying everyone at Hasbro is evil or everyone that is connected to them are evil.  I imagine that can be painful to hear at times for those who are in the same boat but don't have the power to actually do a ton of stuff to change anything.  Sure, there have been suggestions probably, and small battles have been "won" as they may put it in their response yesterday, but the overall situation is what you see.Personally I am with everyone else here.  As a gamer, I am just wanting to play the game as well.  I am absolutely fuming, myself, at what's happened over the past week.  With Paizo's ORC, I am gritting my teeth and just extremely furious at the choices they are making with D&D.  I can see a situation where they are allowing a rise of another company (despite playing PF as well and loving what they've done with the game, they are not WotC or D&D) that could occur similar to what happened at the end of 4e.  It makes me want to kick buckets as hard as I can.  I am absolutely mad about that.  I also feel almost helpless in regards to what HAS is doing about all right now in this situation.  I think it is an absolute travesty and BAD PR.  I think it is ESPECIALLY BAD RIGHT BEFORE THE MOVIE comes out and could see it affecting that, but I have nothing to back that up currently except my own personal feelings. Beyond is one thing, and it may be that this will be a strong enough message from it that will make them change course.  I do not know.  It's uncharted waters.  I feel there ARE a LOT Of eyes on that movie though.  That's a LOT of presence there that can affect D&D.  That's what I see as a turning point, depending on what happens with it. It could happen sooner, it could happen quicker.  You are talking about people committed to a course of action.Overall, though, right now...there are going to be voices that point out that I should not be unhappy with how HAS is doing.   They have a strong argument for the current course I think.  Changing their minds is going to take some very strong messages and other things occurring.  I am not trying to discourage people at all, I am ON your side.  I am just pointing out that it could be an uphill battle.  Yes, people unsubscribed to Beyond...but has it led to them stating specifically that the 1.0a cannot be revoked yet, or rewording the "de-authorization" where it will appease those that are upset about how they interpret it currently?You may be surprised at how many longtime (as opposed to day traders or shorter term) stockholders are actually invested in the Hasbro properties because they actually enjoy the materials and items involving Hasbro, including D&D and/or Magic among other things.  You think the board is representing THEM with some of these decisions or making the decisions those stockholders want?  It just that they currently don't have the power there to stop the course that's been chosen.  I'd imagine there are at least a few on these very forums that have HAS stock.  I can't imagine most of them are happy with the current situation in regards to D&D (and/or possibly MtG as well, or at least the past few months in that regards). Part of that is probably not having the ammunition to fight the fight yet, or being able to prove that the current course is the wrong one to those committed to this course of action. I apologize for the extremely long post.  I am Mad at what is happening to D&D right now and a lot of this is probably just venting. TLDR - I am mad about the situation right now with D&D and HAS/WotC's response.  I see ORC as a possible threat to D&D's dominance.  I feel powerless in regards to the decisions going on, even if some there consider even the little turning they've done as our side having "won."  I feel that there are those that are stockholders that also sympathize with the rest of the community on this.  They are not a monolithic group.  Some don't like what's occurring either.  Those stockholders just don't have the power right now to change the course that has been chosen.</blockquote>

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