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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Justice and Rule" data-source="post: 8897834" data-attributes="member: 6778210">My comments have never referred to you or your opinions. My point, when I made it initially and followed up, were solely about the idea of "they (Wizards) want some controls", which I commented that their idea of "some controls" was excessive and didn't fit the more mundane and reason goals they have stated. Because of this, I do not trust their statements or motives in this debacle.No, we didn't. We haven't gotten anything yet because we've not seen what they will do and their apology is basically completely boilerplate. That they thought they could sneak this through, negotiate deals with places like Kickstarter without making this public, and then respond that this was the real goal makes me inherently distrust anything and everything they are trying to do on this front. It's incredibly hard for me to figure out what exactly they could do to regain that trust bar putting the words "irrevocable" into OGL 1.0a.Kings don't negotiate with peasants, and corporations don't negotiate with customers. They can make those motions, act like they are taking our best interests in mind, but there is no negotiating table and there are no assurances to any of us of what they will do.No, my comment was largely towards the idea that they want "some control" over 3PP for whatever reason, which flies in the face of what they actually gave us. If you want to police your work, fine, but don't build a Death Star and tell me that it's just there to keep me safe.I think the whole drive to want to be able to better police bad works is just an incredibly bad stalking horse, given that they already have powerful tools to do so without needing to modify the OGL one bit. Their status in the marketplace alone allows them to crush and deplatform a variety of different projects. Look at what happened to "Eat the Rich": got deplatformed because they felt the idea of "anti-capitalist" was "political".That is... optimistic at best, to say the least. The assurances they could give me are ones that I am likely not to get. The idea that they are negotiating here misses that they've not really shown any sort of new agreement that doesn't give up their ability to alter things at their own whim. If they can give that up, sure. But their current statement comes off as inherently dishonest and deceptive given what we've been told about OGL 1.1, the contracts and their attempts to give out sweetheart deals.</blockquote>

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