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<blockquote data-quote="Justice and Rule" data-source="post: 8897938" data-attributes="member: 6778210">Who is doing that? I mean, of all the people on this board, I'm loudly for social justice causes, but at the same time I don't really see a need for putting a &quot;no hate speech&quot; rider in because we'd need to define what &quot;hate speech&quot; covers. It's just easier to work collectively to shun and deplatform those projects and people who pursue those projects rather than giving the executioner power to a faceless corporation that can change leadership and direction based on the whims of shareholders.And what I'm saying is that the system already works: we are in an era that is rife with this stuff, where people love putting out offensive stuff like this... and we don't have a huge problem with racist products as far as anyone can show me.This is Bear Patrol-level stuff of &quot;problems that don't exist but need fixing&quot;... and at least in that case, there actually was a bear.Then why do we need some immutable, unchallenged, unseatable patriarch of the community telling us what we can and cannot have? I'm utterly confused by this line of argumentation.This is a nonsense counter, and you should really answer his question if you want to convince people. If you can't prove that something is broken in any way, why does it need a fix?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Justice and Rule, post: 8897938, member: 6778210"] Who is doing that? I mean, of all the people on this board, I'm loudly for social justice causes, but at the same time I don't really see a need for putting a "no hate speech" rider in because we'd need to define what "hate speech" covers. It's just easier to work collectively to shun and deplatform those projects and people who pursue those projects rather than giving the executioner power to a faceless corporation that can change leadership and direction based on the whims of shareholders. And what I'm saying is that the system already [I]works: [/I]we are in an era that is rife with this stuff, where people love putting out offensive stuff like this... and we don't have a huge problem with racist products as far as anyone can show me. This is Bear Patrol-level stuff of "problems that don't exist but need fixing"... and at least in [I]that [/I]case, there actually [I]was[/I] a bear. Then why do we need some immutable, unchallenged, unseatable patriarch of the community telling us what we can and cannot have? I'm utterly confused by this line of argumentation. This is a nonsense counter, and you should really answer his question if you want to convince people. If you can't prove that something is broken in any way, why does it need a fix? [/QUOTE]

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